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Old 01-26-2009, 11:05 AM   #951
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Sorry to blab on, but I had to chime in on Andy and Tessa! I never thought that she was into him enough to make it work. Not only was she coy and reluctant, she just seemed too different from him. Her family seemed kind of intellectual and quirky, whereas he was the all-American guy. Don't get me wrong, I liked both of them a lot. I just felt they were not a good match. They played it as the "can he persuade her?" edit. IMO, she needed so much persuading because she sensed that he wasn't right for her.
I wonder what would've happened if Andy chose Bevin instead.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:08 AM   #952
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I'll never forget Bevin at that FRC. To me, that was the single most heartbreaking reaction of an F2 I have ever seen.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:10 AM   #953
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Overall, in America the cheerleader image is the girl who has it all going for her. She is cute and extremely popular. She is not the one that the rest of us imagine getting dumped and hurt so badly that her self-esteem is crushed.

Now ratch it up to the level of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders who guys think are ultra sexy.

Of course, it can and does happen, but you see where I am going?

As the average American girl, we are wondering, "How the heck did this happen to her, and how did she get to this place where she has this lack of self-esteem??? It just seems incredible but there it is for us to see.

By nature, men like to fix problems. I bet he thought he died and went to Heaven when the opportunity for him to try and fix that one fell in his lap.

Quite literally in his lap!

I am loving the return of Prince Jason as well. I didn't like DeAnna much, but I loved the way he was so supportive of her. It's the role he was born to play, and Melissa is the perfect co-star. Sexy, cute, sweet, outgoing......and totally into him and in need of comfort and reassurance? Perfection!

I wanted so much for Andy to pick Bevin. It's unrealistic to expect it, but I almost felt that Tessa should have bowed out. She just didn't seem that into him.
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I'll never forget Bevin at that FRC. To me, that was the single most heartbreaking reaction of an F2 I have ever seen.
Jason is saying that he was in love with his F2 and I firmly believe Andy was in love with Bevin and Tessa. Andy having to say good-bye to Bevin was gut wrenching (I just watched it again Friday). And watching Bevin be rejected made me cry - again......

Under different circumstances, I believe that Andy and Jason could've easily had a wonderful live with their respective F2s. (Although right now we dont' have the necessary footage to see it with Molly)
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Melissa definitely does have insecurities. It's sincere. And it's not just the editing. I saw it when watching her on the CMT show. I've only seen a couple small clips from the first season but in one of them the choreographers are in a room discussing which girls they have concerns about and deciding which ones to cut. The lead choreographer (I think her name's Kelly?) says that she has some concerns about Melissa and another choreographer (Kitty) didn't know Melissa by name but saw who she was talking about and said "Oh, the shy one".

Although, I don't think Melissa was shy so much as she was scared of Kitty, lol. As Melissa confirmed in Season 2. Kitty called her out for messing something up. And Melissa said that after being on the team for a year, she still made her nervous. (Anyone who's seen that show will understand why!)

Also in Season 2, the girls go to a boutique in Dallas to try on bikinis for the swimsuit calender. And you could see Melissa was a little insecure with that as well. Here's the clip: LINK
Thanks for the reminder of Melissa's shyness issues in the preparations for the calendar shoot on Making the Team. I've only seen a few snippets of Melissa on that show, but that's a really good point. After watching the sneak preview of tonight's episode, it seems pretty clear that Melissa's "doubt" as F1 will be a combination of trying to hide their physical chemistry, play up her goofy side, and highlight her natural tendencies - to be critical of herself (she said that to Jason last week; said something similar on MTT) and her worries about "being unlucky in love."

I just hope they continue to show more and more of her connection with Jason and how he responds to her. THAT speaks 100x more to me than any edit technique, voiceover or PI could, though they're laying that foundation, too. He's a much more uh.. masculine : version of himself than I ever saw with Deanna, or so far, with anyone else on this season.

He's comfortable with her, he's also protective and reassuring. Let's just say she brings out the best in him.

I also hope they don't belabor the "I'm insecure" angle of the edit. I think it's safe to say that Melissa is getting the "I'm falling in love, will I get my happy ending?" storyline. Molly is getting an as yet unclear edit. I doubt it will just be "I'm sneaky and sexy." Hopefully that will be more clear after tonight!

If they focus too much on the doubt, and less on the connection, then people reach conclusions which are unfavorable. Example - Tessa's doubt was that she was "unsure of the process." Andy wound up chasing her the whole season. Take it too far, and she was viewed as "playing hard to get."

This season, if Melissa's doubt and insecurity is taken too far, people will think she's desperate. Don't do that, editors!
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Thanks for the reminder of Melissa's shyness issues in the preparations for the calendar shoot on Making the Team. I've only seen a few snippets of Melissa on that show, but that's a really good point. After watching the sneak preview of tonight's episode, it seems pretty clear that Melissa's "doubt" as F1 will be a combination of trying to hide their physical chemistry, play up her goofy side, and highlight her natural tendencies - to be critical of herself (she said that to Jason last week; said something similar on MTT) and her worries about "being unlucky in love."

I just hope they continue to show more and more of her connection with Jason and how he responds to her. THAT speaks 100x more to me than any edit technique, voiceover or PI could, though they're laying that foundation, too. He's a much more uh.. masculine : version of himself than I ever saw with Deanna, or so far, with anyone else on this season.

He's comfortable with her, he's also protective and reassuring. Let's just say she brings out the best in him.

I also hope they don't belabor the "I'm insecure" angle of the edit. I think it's safe to say that Melissa is getting the "I'm falling in love, will I get my happy ending?" storyline. Molly is getting an as yet unclear edit. I doubt it will just be "I'm sneaky and sexy." Hopefully that will be more clear after tonight!

If they focus too much on the doubt, and less on the connection, then people reach conclusions which are unfavorable. Example - Tessa's doubt was that she was "unsure of the process." Andy wound up chasing her the whole season. Take it too far, and she was viewed as "playing hard to get."

This season, if Melissa's doubt and insecurity is taken too far, people will think she's desperate. Don't do that, editors!
Molly is getting the "we'd better make sure they like F1 better than F2" edit
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Molly is getting the "we'd better make sure they like F1 better than F2" edit
Molly is getting a pretty soft F2 edit - it's hard to compare her to any previous F2, Bevin and Andy had instant chemistry, not Jay and Molly: Chelsea was a HUGE troublemaker, Molly is a bit of a troublemaker/manstealer (which apparently she was involved with a married man when she came on the show - I digress), nor is Molly a Sadie, Moana, Kelly Jo, Tara, Tanya, Trista......

Tonight's edit of her return to the mansion should give us a clearer picture of which way her edit is going - I figure it'll be the chemistry edit.
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Molly is getting a pretty soft F2 edit - it's hard to compare her to any previous F2, Bevin and Andy had instant chemistry, not Jay and Molly: Chelsea was a HUGE troublemaker, Molly is a bit of a troublemaker/manstealer (which apparently she was involved with a married man when she came on the show - I digress), nor is Molly a Sadie, Moana, Kelly Jo, Tara, Tanya, Trista......

Tonight's edit of her return to the mansion should give us a clearer picture of which way her edit is going - I figure it'll be the chemistry edit.

\I vote for the bolded/underlined part...umfortunately that has beent he only side we have seen
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Molly is getting a pretty soft F2 edit - it's hard to compare her to any previous F2, Bevin and Andy had instant chemistry, not Jay and Molly: Chelsea was a HUGE troublemaker, Molly is a bit of a troublemaker/manstealer (which apparently she was involved with a married man when she came on the show - I digress), nor is Molly a Sadie, Moana, Kelly Jo, Tara, Tanya, Trista......

Tonight's edit of her return to the mansion should give us a clearer picture of which way her edit is going - I figure it'll be the chemistry edit.
Molly's story hasn't popped out yet, I agree completely. WAY too early to judge the eventual quality/nature of her relative standing in the competition. The ending (F2) cannot be reconciled with what's been shown thus far, but by FRC there will be plenty of missing pieces filled in.
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\I vote for the bolded/underlined part...umfortunately that has beent he only side we have seen

but it's been very weak so far, and left to us to try and define it - I guess it's kinda like Jenni, cuz they do like to kiss.
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