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Old 01-26-2009, 10:00 AM   #941
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ITA with the bolded..that one would have to be confident, plus also competitive in beating out 600+ women and also love to perform in dancing with the DCCs...I just wonder why they are showing Melissa as being so insecure, if she is in fact, so confident. She is obviously competitive, and she has experience in front of the cameras already, and is used to being in a large group of women competing for the same prize/end result and winning it. Why show so much insecurity I wonder? The mind ponders. Thanks
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Melissa definitely does have insecurities. It's sincere. And it's not just the editing. I saw it when watching her on the CMT show. I've only seen a couple small clips from the first season but in one of them the choreographers are in a room discussing which girls they have concerns about and deciding which ones to cut. The lead choreographer (I think her name's Kelly?) says that she has some concerns about Melissa and another choreographer (Kitty) didn't know Melissa by name but saw who she was talking about and said "Oh, the shy one".

Although, I don't think Melissa was shy so much as she was scared of Kitty, lol. As Melissa confirmed in Season 2. Kitty called her out for messing something up. And Melissa said that after being on the team for a year, she still made her nervous. (Anyone who's seen that show will understand why!)

Also in Season 2, the girls go to a boutique in Dallas to try on bikinis for the swimsuit calender. And you could see Melissa was a little insecure with that as well. Here's the clip: LINK

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Old 01-26-2009, 10:04 AM   #942
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My point is that she is a confident woman, able to get along in a group of beautiful women . She doesn't get involved in drama and can be happy for another nice woman that gets a group date rose. She doesn't have to aggressively pursue a man ~ she can be pursued.

Even a confident woman would struggle knowing a sexually confident & aggressive woman had spent the night with the same man that is pursuing her. Follow that up with a day of watching him "kiss" other women. That would shake any woman's confidence ~ that involves your heart. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough in my original post.
Yeah. We definitely didn't see the whole conversation between Melissa and Jason after the GH date but we did hear her say that "today was hard". I don't think she was just talking about the GH acting stuff. I think she was talking about Molly too. It was that morning, before the GH date that Molly came back from her tent date with Jason.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:20 AM   #943
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Yeah. We definitely didn't see the whole conversation between Melissa and Jason after the GH date but we did hear her say that "today was hard". I don't think she was just talking about the GH acting stuff. I think she was talking about Molly too. It was that morning, before the GH date that Molly came back from her tent date with Jason.
totally agree - Molly's overnight date with Jason was fresh on her mind, then going into a date that had him kissing more girls. More than likely it was the Molly thing that pushed her over the edge. Afterall, Jason did hand pick Molly for that date and not Melissa......
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:27 AM   #944
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The producers need some type of 'doubt' when it comes to Melissa, so maybe this is all they can come up with since her and Jason's connection is so obvious as the show progresses. In the end they want suspense for the final episode so maybe they will portray Molly as the confident one and really play up any romantic time between her and Jason, and Melissa's role/character in the suspense will be "will the shy, insecure, sweet girl get her heart broken and have a one sided love once again?"
This sounds plausible. We have been saying since dot that Mollie is highly confident. Although Jason expressed doubt whether a DCC could be settled enough to fit into his life, he seemed satisfied enough with her answers after their date for that not to be the main conflict in their story. However, even from her promo segment we began to see her voice insecurities about herself and her luck at love. With each interaction, the rising story line seems to focus a little more on how unsure she is of herself. It gives him a chance to show the male protective side in reassuring her in tenderness.
Molly is probably going to come on gain busters, and Melissa is going to continue to show uncertainty.

Just a thought:
If Melissa dated that guy for 7 years and he dumped her, then maybe there is a very natural and real tendency to feel insecure about relationships.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:35 AM   #945
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I can't stop watching that video... I just really wonder how much they will show from it tonight. I had a hard time hearing him say "Do you feel (or do you know we have) a connection" but I heard it and I truely believe they are in love at that point. I know he may have said that he fell in love with two women but I truely find that hard to believe. I guess maybe tonight I will see more of a connection with Molly but right now he doesn't look at any of the women the way he looks at Melissa. I literally cried last night the first time I watched that video...
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:39 AM   #946
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Exactly, Capegal. Melissa hasn't pushed herself on him in any way. She has let him know she is interested in him, but allows him to take the lead. She allows Jason to do the wooing, if you will.

We know she is a capable and confident woman in the real world. You can't beat out 600+ women for a spot on the DCC, perform in front of thousands and be heavily involved in the Cowboys many charitable endeavors and be anything less than confident. It takes good people skills and a level of maturity to get along with a large group of beautiful, talented women. It's unfortunate that a small percentage of people want to denigrate women that dance/cheer. Go Melissa!

I do think there is a real double standard with women who do cheerleading v. male athletes. In Texas, where I also live, many girls do cheer for fun and exercise.....as an extracurricular activity, just like softball or baseball or soccer. At the higher levels, it is a very challenging and demanding physical activity. Being a cheerleader doesn't make one dumb or shallow any more than being an athlete does. We know young men who were outstanding students but also loved baseball, so they would go to the college that allowed them to play and try to take a shot at the minor leagues. Since most won't make it as players in the long run, they move on to other careers later.....careers that involve the brain instead of the body. Nothing wrong with that.

Sorry. As for the show editing, I buy Melissa being insecure in this particular situation. She is confident in some areas but also vulnerable. I think they are striking a good balance....and if she is really like that then she seems like a good fit for Jason.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:47 AM   #947
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I agree with you also with Andy and Tessa -- He always had to do the chasing and she was always running, that cannot be a healthy relationship
Sorry to blab on, but I had to chime in on Andy and Tessa! I never thought that she was into him enough to make it work. Not only was she coy and reluctant, she just seemed too different from him. Her family seemed kind of intellectual and quirky, whereas he was the all-American guy. Don't get me wrong, I liked both of them a lot. I just felt they were not a good match. They played it as the "can he persuade her?" edit. IMO, she needed so much persuading because she sensed that he wasn't right for her.
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I do think there is a real double standard with women who do cheerleading v. male athletes. In Texas, where I also live, many girls do cheer for fun and exercise.....as an extracurricular activity, just like softball or baseball or soccer. At the higher levels, it is a very challenging and demanding physical activity. Being a cheerleader doesn't make one dumb or shallow any more than being an athlete does. We know young men who were outstanding students but also loved baseball, so they would go to the college that allowed them to play and try to take a shot at the minor leagues. Since most won't make it as players in the long run, they move on to other careers later.....careers that involve the brain instead of the body. Nothing wrong with that.

Sorry. As for the show editing, I buy Melissa being insecure in this particular situation. She is confident in some areas but also vulnerable. I think they are striking a good balance....and if she is really like that then she seems like a good fit for Jason.

Overall, in America the cheerleader image is the girl who has it all going for her. She is cute and extremely popular. She is not the one that the rest of us imagine getting dumped and hurt so badly that her self-esteem is crushed.

Now ratch it up to the level of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders who guys think are ultra sexy.

Of course, it can and does happen, but you see where I am going?

As the average American girl, we are wondering, "How the heck did this happen to her, and how did she get to this place where she has this lack of self-esteem??? It just seems incredible but there it is for us to see.

By nature, men like to fix problems. I bet he thought he died and went to Heaven when the opportunity for him to try and fix that one fell in his lap.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:00 AM   #949
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Sorry to blab on, but I had to chime in on Andy and Tessa! I never thought that she was into him enough to make it work. Not only was she coy and reluctant, she just seemed too different from him. Her family seemed kind of intellectual and quirky, whereas he was the all-American guy. Don't get me wrong, I liked both of them a lot. I just felt they were not a good match. They played it as the "can he persuade her?" edit. IMO, she needed so much persuading because she sensed that he wasn't right for her.
Please do blab on, Zula May! Love your posts and that's why we're here.

ITA with your thoughts on Tessa. She was very reluctant to continue on and TPTB helped Andy persuade her with Cinderella date, etc. She seems to be a private person and no doubt knew of Andy's love of the spotlight. Bevin seemed so into Andy ~ a better match for his healthy ego.

Your thoughts on the whole athlete vs. cheerleaders is spot on, as well. Competitive cheer is very physically demanding with the girls spending several hours daily in the gym. The days of pom-poms and saddle oxfords are long over. The mystique surrounding a cheerleader and perhaps a bit of envy towards her lives on.
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By nature, men like to fix problems. I bet he thought he died and went to Heaven when the opportunity for him to try and fix that one fell in his lap.
I think this scene also shows Jason at his sweet, empathetic and romantic best. Now that the test drives are basically over, I am glad to see the Jason that I found so appealing last season is making a grand return.

It reminded me of when he comforted D***** after she dumped Fred and The Chef but it was much better because I know his feelings are being reciprocated.
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