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Old 01-21-2009, 07:13 PM   #581
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How great would that be??!! I'd love to see something like that.
Why not show it now so you can actually believe there is romance between them. Not falling in love until the HTD? I am tired of waiting til the HTD and suddenly am expected to believe they care about each other. If they are in love build up to it like they did with Meridith and Ian. At least it was believable even tho it didnt work out.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:20 PM   #582
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Didn't I hear or read somewhere that the HTD was when F1 took center stage in Jason's head/heart/mind? By that point he only had four left, so I'm sure it was much easier than the mental gymnastics of the M&G. I think Melissa's storyline is minimal so far because the HTD was when they started getting serious.

I wish TPTB would do an additional show at the very end (either following or as part of the ATFR) using the stuff that's on the cutting room floor, to show the love story that wasn't shown because they needed to fill eight shows and could only do that by using (aka encouraging) lots of drama.
Personally Im tired of the waiting til the HTD date to show romance thing.
If there is a romace there show it! Build up to it like they did with Meridith and Ian even tho it didnt work out betwwen them. I want to see a love story .
And Im not buying a love story that's suddenly thrown into the mix towards the end. Why does this show keep failing in the relationship department?
Because the Bachelors keep picking these immature little girls instead of some one who actually wants a serious relationship. I dont think this one is going to be any different. Doomed to fail.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:21 PM   #583
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I can't wait for the FD & LCD dates I'm curious as to what Jason will say to each girl. JMO, I think it's going to be hard for F1, to watch the show. Especially, since Jason admitted he was in love with both women that is a hard pill to swallow.
Seems like the PTB feed these likes to the bach/ette of the show to repeat during the gizillion interviews. One would think that the bachelor would learn from past shows that making just such a statement means the end of the relationship. The PTB don't seem to care since they got their show taped and aired.

Rather than go with the "I loved them both (at the end of the taping) and left them both (at the end of the airing), he could just say I got to know both of them better and chose the one that I felt I had the best chance with to work out in the real world in the long run or some such spheel.......

It's seems rather odd that Jason said he got over Deanna yet if Melissa is the one he picked, his choice seems something more than a coincidence. The two women seem to share quite a bit. They could easily pass off for cousins if not sisters. They are both Greek, brunettes who want to work on E! Network doing entertainment news, both adventurous looking to settle down with a hubby and family.

Melissa told Jason on the show she wanted to be a first grade teacher during their date. So which is the truth? Are we being taken for a ride by an unreal reality show with pretty much everything said on the showbeing a fib or a flub. Yet it's hard to walk away from this trainwreck happening over and over again.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:23 PM   #584
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Why not show it now so you can actually believe there is romance between them. Not falling in love until the HTD? I am tired of waiting til the HTD and suddenly am expected to believe they care about each other. If they are in love build up to it like they did with Meridith and Ian. At least it was believable even tho it didnt work out.
The filming schedule is so compressed that as of the HTD they have only known each other for about 10-12 days. It doesn't surprise me that participants get a rush of "real" feelings from bringing their families into it, away from LA-LA Land and the kookiness of the mansion and group dates.

My Dad (now 82, a very upright sort morally!) had a saying that "sex is the rocket that makes a marriage take off!" Of course, my siblings and friends and I had many a chuckle about this statement, from any number of angles. But I digress! I think this sort of factor does hold true for fantasy dates. The relief of being alone away from cameras-- even if no physical act is consummated! -- must propel emotions to the next level very quickly.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:29 PM   #585
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1) Jason wants everyone to be happy - especially with him ... all the time. He says nothing negative, he loves everyone ... wants to be in the secret club with each of them. What is he looking for? The homecoming queen? Miss Popularity?

2) Jason is having the time of his life - again - and loving being Lord of the Harem. He keeps everyone happy until the execution. Talk about mixed signals!

3) The Bachelor has enough control of what he will and will not do to alter the direction of the entire show. He just has to reach down deep and get his head back into the daylight and reevaluate his personal moral compass.

4) No more retreads. Deanna and Jason and Bob and Jen are perfect examples of why it doesn't work. I have no clue why it worked for Trista and Mer.

5) The current editors are so inept they have to resort to creating conflict themselves to keep this show from being a snooze. Somebody drag Mike Fleiss back from his current projects to save this!

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6) Jason and his chosen should be watching the progression of their love story together, not hiding it. If it is so painful, what does that say about the person causing the pain? This is their personal love story. They are going to be together forever and ever. They should be revelling in the journey that brought them together. And if they cannot do that, then perhaps the ought to rethink their commitment.
This show in recent years is starting to look like some of those commercials one sees about girls gone bad. Yikes! The first 3 bachelor shows were a bit more focused on romance and didn't show women in such bad light. That these women are willing to swallow their self-respect and sign on to do such trashy and sometimes demeaning stuff on a show says a lot about where they are in their in lives at the moment. Most are probably not ready to settle down yet. It could be just the thrill of going on a show or even living a secret dream to get some Hollywood exposure.

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The filming schedule is so compressed that as of the HTD they have only known each other for about 10-12 days. It doesn't surprise me that participants get a rush of "real" feelings from bringing their families into it, away from LA-LA Land and the kookiness of the mansion and group dates.

My Dad (now 82, a very upright sort morally!) had a saying that "sex is the rocket that makes a marriage take off!" Of course, my siblings and friends and I had many a chuckle about this statement, from any number of angles. But I digress! I think this sort of factor does hold true for fantasy dates. The relief of being alone away from cameras-- even if no physical act is consummated! -- must propel emotions to the next level very quickly.
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The filming schedule is so compressed that as of the HTD they have only known each other for about 10-12 days. It doesn't surprise me that participants get a rush of "real" feelings from bringing their families into it, away from LA-LA Land and the kookiness of the mansion and group dates.

My Dad (now 82, a very upright sort morally!) had a saying that "sex is the rocket that makes a marriage take off!" Of course, my siblings and friends and I had many a chuckle about this statement, from any number of angles. But I digress! I think this sort of factor does hold true for fantasy dates. The relief of being alone away from cameras-- even if no physical act is consummated! -- must propel emotions to the next level very quickly.

Often "LOVE" is a term used loosely to express other emotions and blossoming feelings for most people. One can never claim to be in love with another and know it is for life, if first they don't understand who they are. Loving someone means accepting them warts and all. So why is it at the first sign of not getting one's way or an unresolved disagreement they are ready to walk away from each other. Ultimately it's all about what one brings to a relationship be it marriage, friendship, etc. It's the only side of the relationship you can control. Can't do much if the other one walks away. Look what happened with Jesse and Deaaaaaaaaaaaaaana with her infamous "I love you but not in love with you". Did she get what she said?
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:59 PM   #588
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What we are seeing with the Jason / Melissa edit may actually be the same as the Ian / Meridith edit. Chris Harrison stated that it was very hard to show scenes of them together without giving the whole thing away. They were so into each other very early on that it made for a very weird edit at times. It may be the same with Jason & Melissa. Their attraction to each other may have been so obvious from the start that TPTB had to work really hard to NOT show it. We know that the two of them had to have inter-reacted the first night. My question has always been "What is it that they DIDN't want us to see?
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Heck, I melted when I saw Ian... I can't imagine the feelings she had when she kissed him!!!
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:31 PM   #590
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I always like to see the "bloopers" from shows. I'd like to see the things they cut out (like J & M kissing after the keep a breast). I remember reading that they had to edit because it was so obvious who J wanted, but I'd like to see a little more of the love story. Maybe next week??
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