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Old 01-21-2009, 12:44 AM   #551
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I agree - the whole premise of the show is multiple dates and kissing etc. why is everybody so so shocked when it happens?


I'm not shocked LOL!
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:47 AM   #552
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[quote=northernviewer;3285267;]If I was the Bach - I wouldn't want my F1 to watch either. Even though he was going through a process and isn't "cheating" - it's still got to be embarrassing for them all to watch. I know I wouldn't want my husband to have watched footage of me with an ex-boyfriend before we met - even though it wouldn't be cheating on him, I'd still wouldn't want him to feel uncomfortable.

Jason just wants to spare his F1's feelings - nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps he is trying to get his own feelings spared?

I strongly suspect that he would like to avoid her watching him make-out with all of the other women, and I am very sure he would like to avoid her reaction to him doing it when she gets over being hurt and gets mad instead.

To heck with all the rationalization. The heart doesn't listen to all of that rot.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:50 AM   #553
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Exactly, Bloomers!
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:52 AM   #554
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If I was the Bach - I wouldn't want my F1 to watch either. Even though he was going through a process and isn't "cheating" - it's still got to be embarrassing for them all to watch. I know I wouldn't want my husband to have watched footage of me with an ex-boyfriend before we met - even though it wouldn't be cheating on him, I'd still wouldn't want him to feel uncomfortable.

Jason just wants to spare his F1's feelings - nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps he is trying to get his own feelings spared?

I strongly suspect that he would like to avoid her watching him make-out with all of the other women, and I am very sure he would like to avoid her reaction to him doing it when she gets over being hurt and gets mad instead.

To heck with all the rationalization. The heart doesn't listen to all of that rot.
Like I said earlier - I wouldn't want my F1 to watch either - it's human nature. And the F1 is in no position to be angry or upset.... she knew what she was getting into and probably heard all about everything in the house anyway. If they expect him to fall in love on day one and avoid all the other girls - that's pure vanity and totally unrealistic IMO
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:57 AM   #555
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He may have all of them, but we saw the edited ones that were meant to point out something particular.

I suspect he got zilch, zero out of Jillian. I think he had to reassure Melissa that he understood she wasn't in on it, etc.

On the other hand, we saw his questioning of Lauren because it further established what kind of (edited) character she has ( 2 faced) which gives us a sub-conscious reason for accepting why he rejects her when he does.

It furthered Naomi's storyline ( which is almost non-existent considering she is F4) to show him questioning her and to have her flat out tell him that she wanted her time with him instead of talking about the other girls.
(Her story really does have to get going sometime)

Exactly Bloomers TPTB are showing us what they want to further storylines and give the girls their 'character' edit. What I found interesting is what they did with Natalie's edit up until her date with Jason. I remember Melissa saying she thought Natalie would come back from the date because Natalie and Jason connection or something to that effect.

And the girls said the drama was gone when Natalie left. Shannon is impersonating her at the end in the credits. It seems there was much more going on with Natalie but TPTB didn't go that direction with Natalie's edit. I guess they had enough resident troublemakers to work with.
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Like I said earlier - I wouldn't want my F1 to watch either - it's human nature. And the F1 is in no position to be angry or upset.... she knew what she was getting into and probably heard all about everything in the house anyway. If they expect him to fall in love on day one and avoid all the other girls - that's pure vanity and totally unrealistic IMO
Oh I agree 100% it's not like this is real life dating situation, they were dating on a reality show....Where you are required to put on a show......
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:19 AM   #557
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Like I said earlier - I wouldn't want my F1 to watch either - it's human nature. And the F1 is in no position to be angry or upset.... she knew what she was getting into and probably heard all about everything in the house anyway. If they expect him to fall in love on day one and avoid all the other girls - that's pure vanity and totally unrealistic IMO
Exactly. I don't think it has to do with him being worried she'll be mad or upset. But it will hurt to watch. You're either not human or not in love, if watching the person you're with be with someone else doesn't affect you.

So I get where he's coming from. He knows how hard it will be for her to watch the show. And wants to avoid as much hurt as possible. I just don't think that not watching the show is the best way to go about that.

He's said before that he wants to learn from past Bachelor/ette couples, and do what they (the successful ones) did right. So he should learn from Trista and Ryan and do what they did. Which was watch the shows and talk a LOT. It's all about communication. Trista said Ryan had a really hard time watching the shows and they had to have long conversations about it. But he did watch and they got through it and after the show was done airing, they were ready to move on and never talked about it again.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:56 AM   #558
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1) Jason wants everyone to be happy - especially with him ... all the time. He says nothing negative, he loves everyone ... wants to be in the secret club with each of them. What is he looking for? The homecoming queen? Miss Popularity?

2) Jason is having the time of his life - again - and loving being Lord of the Harem. He keeps everyone happy until the execution. Talk about mixed signals!

3) The Bachelor has enough control of what he will and will not do to alter the direction of the entire show. He just has to reach down deep and get his head back into the daylight and reevaluate his personal moral compass.

4) No more retreads. Deanna and Jason and Bob and Jen are perfect examples of why it doesn't work. I have no clue why it worked for Trista and Mer.

5) The current editors are so inept they have to resort to creating conflict themselves to keep this show from being a snooze. Somebody drag Mike Fleiss back from his current projects to save this!

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6) Jason and his chosen should be watching the progression of their love story together, not hiding it. If it is so painful, what does that say about the person causing the pain? This is their personal love story. They are going to be together forever and ever. They should be revelling in the journey that brought them together. And if they cannot do that, then perhaps the ought to rethink their commitment.
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:42 AM   #559
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If anyone was still waiting for Melissa to fall off her platform, she did it tonight. Although not seriously, she was shown joining in with some of the talk about other girls. We again heard her voice her insecurity when she was discussing how attracted to Natalie Jason was. Even more so than Jason, Melissa has a very expressive face, and we saw several frowns besides at the RC. While not getting a bad edit, Melissa is not getting a perfect edit either- certainly not an edit like Tessa's or Jen Sheft's during Adrew's reign.
I just watched the show again and I disagree. Not that she's insecure because she's said herself that she is. But that talking about Natalie was an example of that.

She only "joined in on some of the talk about the other girls" once in the whole show. And it was not negative. She was in a bedroom with Stephanie, Lauren and Shannon. And they were talking about Natalie and whether or not she would come back. Stephanie said she thinks he's physically attracted to her and Melissa agreed. And noted how they kept touching each other and how he had his eyes locked in on her. And that they were "all giggles" before they left. She was just stating it matter-of-exactly. I didn't get that she was jealous or insecure about it. And then she agreed with everyone else in the room that Natalie would come back.

I thought it was similar to how Jason told the other guys last season about how different Deanna was when she was around Graham. Both Jason and Melissa noticed the Bachelor/Bachelorette's body language when they were around the other guys/girls.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:40 AM   #560
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The moaning....how could you forget Tina Fab?? They both later said that was nothing, Of course they want you to think there was moaning....and more!

We don't know if Jason advised his F1 to not watch, and if he did, why & what let up to it. And we'll probably never know. I highly doubt out of the clear blue, he said "don't watch".
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