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Old 01-08-2009, 01:21 AM   #121
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You have some fascinating insights. Please keep them coming. And by the way, many people got snookered by last season's edit which was horrible. By the time we got past the FD, I was beginning to suspect but was hoping it wasn't so. There were some tale-tale signs, but it was a generally awful edit. I am hoping they can do better than that this year as I thought that was just poor writing.
Okay so the good girls this season? (edit wise)

1. Melissa (sparkle, sweet, sense of humor, self deprieciating, there for love not to win. hee hee)
2. Jillian (gal's gal. No agenda as far as the other girls. Confident in a kind way)
3. Nikki?
4. Stephanie?

Bad girls for this season (edit wise)

1. Molly - competitive
2. Lauren - competitive, stirs the pot
3. Natalie - forward, competitive
4. Naomi - forward, competitive
5. Megan (although that might be her edit, I don't really think that is what is going on for her on this season)

I don't know where to put Shannon or the others. I think Shannon is going to be the Twilley (soundbite) edit, or the unstable emotional edit. But I don't see her as mean or competitive.

What does everyone else think? I don't think any one eliminate the next episode should be on either list, esp. if they don't get a one on one date.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:41 AM   #122
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You KNOW the Bachelor editor screwed up his "supertease" preview, when FORT receives dozens of new posts each day for a week straight alerting its members to the exact same (correct) evidence of the identity of the F1.

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Well, it could be reverse psychology. Some people already questioned "Could it be this obvious?"
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:09 AM   #123
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Ahh, but we learned from Matt's season (Shayne/Chelsea) that yes, sometimes it really is THAT obvious! (Remember the shot they aired fairly early of Matt embracing Shayne from behind in her yellowish dress?) I swore up and down that Shayne couldn't possibly be F1 because the producers wouldn't so carelessly give that away. But they did!
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:50 AM   #124
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Regarding labeling some girls aggressive, I recall Molly saying she was a very confident person. So far, Molly's actions support this - I haven't seen aggressive moves yet. I would say Racquel stealing Jason back was aggressive, much more so than Molly cutting in on Racquel's time with Jason.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:36 AM   #125
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Ahh, but we learned from Matt's season (Shayne/Chelsea) that yes, sometimes it really is THAT obvious! (Remember the shot they aired fairly early of Matt embracing Shayne from behind in her yellowish dress?) I swore up and down that Shayne couldn't possibly be F1 because the producers wouldn't so carelessly give that away. But they did!
as I recall though that was at least halfway through the season if not longer, actually I think closer to the last two episodes, not day one. This is the most given out of FRC that I can recall.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:05 AM   #126
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In the Chris Harrison Blog he says,
"But one of the things I like best about Jason is he has NO poker face. As you saw in the first episode, he just can't hide what he's feeling -- good, bad or downright awkward. I find that very endearing as it allows all of us to really see and feel what his true emotions are."
I think the reason we do not see any interaction between Melissa and Jason at the meet & greet is because of Jason's inability to hide his emotions. Jason has said in interviews he wants someone who "lights up a room", "gets along with and wants to get to know everyone". That seems to suit Melissa thus far in the interactions we have see of her with the other ladies. Obviously, there must have been some interaction for him to keep her for another round - darn, I wish we could have seen it.
I agree. Also, I think Jason's attraction to her becomes so obvious that, in order to have some sort of "question/suspense" at the end the editing is trying to get the average viewer to "choose" someone else early on. If that happens then usually the viewer is blinded by obvious things and sees only what they want to see thus enabling there to be a question/debate as to who will be chosen. I think of Amanda, Betina etc. where early on there was a "spark or attraction" which fizzled by the diehard fans (myself included) refused to see the change. I don't think anyone who did not know the spoiler info would have even put Melissa on the radar after the first show.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:36 AM   #127
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Bloomers, Piper is great, as are you!
Thank you! As I have said before, this show is based on a lot of re-cycling techniques and patterns. Bev has added the dimension of the editing models. What Piper did so precisely was to give the camera's play-by play, and then I was able to come behind her and give a lot of the comparable history and analysis. By using specific examples that people vividly recalled, in tandem we were able to help people understand how they were being manipulated into certain thought processes. However, she picked up much more than I ever had and was so funny in the process!

It is amazing how much all of really know about this show when we actually think about it beyond the surfact level of what we see and hear, and I love it when we start digging deep and sharing insights.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:38 AM   #128
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as much as i LOVE LOVE and appreciate all the theories going around on here... i'm not making any assumptions until that final episode. Looking back at some previous seasons (Deanna being the most recent), i was POSITIVE she was going to choose Jason. What kind of heartless b&#@* would take a man with a young child that far, only to dump him at the very end? i thought that the editing was absolutly in Jason's favor during her season. Plus, remember all the rumors going around on here last season about how Jesse had a girlfriend he broke up with weeks into taping, and how Deanna found out during her season? People even went so far as to say that Jason came into Jesse's date with Deanna's family so she had support when she confronted jesse about all the alligations. and none of that turned out to be true. There is always speculation and always rumors going around. As much as i LOVE reading about them on here, i'm not placing any bets until the final rose is being handed out (and until we get to know the girls a bit more...)
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:39 AM   #129
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none of the Jesse rumors turned out to be true as far as we know... since she did choose him in the end... who knows what went on behind the scenes... oh the drama... i love it
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well some of us ignored the Jesse rumors as they were just that and saw the love story between Jesse and D. But there was no conclusive FRC evidence that time...so it was just sleuthing. I disagree it was heartless to take Jason that far. Its been debated on here. But really Jason signed up for it.... and he got what he signed up for. To let him get down on the knee was cruel. However its not fair to make the bachelor/bachelorette use the kid thing for consideration. This time Jason will be the one keeping 2 ladies from their kids. (one is only 14 months!) but you can't blame him.
I think Jason might have been let go earlier but Graham bailed and Jeremy was much more fragile than Jason. the producers don't let you know skip the frc
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