What's up with that edit??!! - Page 106

anders332 · 01-27-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomers

They deliberately left out in the edit that scene in those screencaps where we saw Jason and Jillian sitting outside looking up at the stars and then kissing which means that the editors didn't want to feed the physical connection of their storyline last night.

Instead, they included her scene in that outrageous wig which was funny, and in which you could tell they both had a blast acting out.

(BTW, I think she could do a humorous parady of Mae West.)

Also, I thought this edited part was telling if we view Jillian as the F3 friend (paraphrasing): "I call you 'dude'; not to your face!

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That is not romantic!

I completely understand the reasoning - afterall she is F3 - do you remember her VO where she said something about leaving?? I can't remember the quote and wanted to post it.

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twochicklets · 01-27-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

I agree. I feel like I'm watching a salesperson doing a pitch from a script when he and Molly are together. She opens well and confidently, answers questions as if she's referencing a features and benefits slide in Powerpoint and closes with a kiss and a smile. However, I have noticed that she never really offers any underlying substance in her replies to his questions.

Yes!! Very smooth and polished.
I also want to add that Molly is very tiny!! She is not "soft". I know that she is most likely PDG, but she appears almost boney to me.

anders332 · 01-27-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilltopmom

Interesting observations. The F1 that was shown to have massive insecurities through the entire show was Tessa. Many here loved Tessa, but then again, she was not a perky, emotive former cheerleader.

TPTB must create doubt about the F1 and they are with the insecurities they've shown in Melissa. If they only showed her wonderful qualities, we would hear complaints that she is "too perfect" and wonder what the producers are hiding.

Jillian has been placed on the back burner for now. We saw a ton of her interacting with Jason and TPTB covered all the major points: fun side, some physical connection, talk about serious issues. Next ~ on to the next one that is in the final four. Now they are exploring Naomi.

The F1 is never perfect. She must only be perfect for Jason.

It's one thing to highlight that Melissa is insecure and jealous, but to see it over and over and over again to the point that Jason needs to comfort her was just too much. I think the 2 hour episodes are bogging down and getting in the way of a better edit for Melissa.

Bloomers · 01-27-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jlccaz

Completely agree with you, boomer lady. I thought the GH date was manipulated to draw out and put her (apparently massive) insecurities on display for viewers, and Jason. Quite unflattering. By the end there was an attempt to cast it as a "scary" "phase" she had moved beyond, but I was unimpressed with the phase.

Jillian was back burned. Maybe they recognize that she has vaulted to Fan Favorite over Molly, and put in a course correction. Clearly the promo shots showed a (nice, it appeared) conversation outside that was cut at the last minute.

What we have seen in the past is that at this point, the editors will begin to "soften" and redeem her edit so that the viewers will begin to like and accept her better by the time the FRC rolls around.

They do it all the time.

Think Shayne: We had that spoiled brat scene at the Casino which was a real doozy of a negative character slant for her to overcome. However, from that point on we began to see her become a much more positive person in the house and to Matt. She actually appeared to be cheerful and sweet.

Even DeAnna who was shown in Brad's season as extremely blunt and too frank to the point that she offended the other women was shown as much sweeter by the FRC.

Finally, most certainly Jesse's edit was redeemed as well. We saw this comicly dressed, brash, un-couth, loud-mouthed, rude long-haired dude by the parents' date become a much more conventionally dressed and acting young man who very much wanted to impress her father and fit into her world.

Minney · 01-27-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Beachmom

I agree. In addition to the "moaning" sounds ( which I totally believe were spliced in), we heard smooching sounds too. But I'm sure they had a camera crew with them right outside the door all night - or at least some crew. Maybe they did leave them alone - I don't know. They had a chance to talk and get to know each other and it looked to me like Jason liked what she said. He kissed her goodbye the next morning too. I think, at this point, he's quite taken with her --if he hasn't made up his mind yet!

Moaning or smooching it can all be added in. All these noises may or may not have actually occurred in the tent. Chances are none of them actually happened though.

Hilltopmom · 01-27-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomers

What we have seen in the past is that at this point, the editors will begin to "soften" and redeem her edit so that the viewers will begin to like and accept her better by the time the FRC rolls around.

They do it all the time.

Think Shayne: We had that spoiled brat scene at the Casino which was a real doozy of a negative character slant for her to overcome. However, from that point on we began to see her become a much more positive person in the house and to Matt. She actually appeared to be cheerful and sweet.

Even DeAnna who was shown in Brad's season as extremely blunt and too frank to the point that she offended the other women was shown as much sweeter by the FRC.

Finally, most certainly Jesse's edit was redeemed as well. We saw this comicly dressed, brash, un-couth, loud-mouthed, rude long-haired dude by the parents' date become a much more conventionally dressed and acting young man who very much wanted to impress her father and fit into her world.

Jesse did try to make himself into what DeAnna wanted him to be and we all know how well that worked out in real life. Bless him...

When we see Melissa crying with her insecurities fully spotlighted we hear Jason tell her "I want you to be you". There must be a reason for that.

BachfanNY · 01-27-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hopelessroman

ITA....but Naomi on the other hand. . . well . . .let's just say she managed to capitalize on the lip locking moments!!!

and those lips brought her way up to speed with on the Jason odemeter.

Last night was interesting to say the least. The looks on their faces when he didn't give out that final rose were priceless. Shannon held it together much better than I thought which was very odd after her tragic pathetic soap opera performance on the roof top. I am sure she is kicking herself.

The missed kiss...the napkin stuck to her teeth. . . her smeared lip gloss. . . I was dying in inside for her . . . .so embarrassing.

THere were a couple of times where I buried my head in my blanket last night. I'm sorry but his interaction with Stephanie is so awkward for me- and when she sang I just wanted to sit her down and take her out of her misery. Then Megan wanted to kiss him (awkward!!) And Shannon, was just embarrasing herself, poor thing. ugh, i couldn't look half the time.

richmondrose · 01-27-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by anders332

It's one thing to highlight that Melissa is insecure and jealous, but to see it over and over and over again to the point that Jason needs to comfort her was just too much. I think the 2 hour episodes are bogging down and getting in the way of a better edit for Melissa.

I'm just curious .... I don't have a favorite nor do I care who he picks at the end ... but I have a question for the Melissa supporters: If you hadn't heard that Jason chose her as F1, after seeing her portrayed last as being so overly jealous and insecure in front of the other girls and him, would you still be in her corner or would you be rooting for someone else ...who would it be and why?

anders332 · 01-27-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Minney

Moaning or smooching it can all be added in. All these noises may or may not have actually occurred in the tent. Chances are none of them actually happened though.

do you really believe that Molly and Jason didn't do any kissing or cuddling in that tent? I don't think it went any further than that, but I don't believe that NOTHING happened in that tent.

StanleyCupCanes · 01-27-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by anders332

It's one thing to highlight that Melissa is insecure and jealous, but to see it over and over and over again to the point that Jason needs to comfort her was just too much. I think the 2 hour episodes are bogging down and getting in the way of a better edit for Melissa.

I think it also makes the viewer start to question the viability of the relationship in real life if you're constantly seeing a person that appears to need a lot of hand holding and reassurance. Particularly, since we know that a child is involved in this scenario. To hold onto viewers so they have some faith in the outcome, I would think they'd show more positive moments between them. I know the passion/attraction piece is there but what about the other elements that make a relationship sustainable?

The person that he selects is going to have face some of life's big stressors..relocation, new job, instant family, etc. Those are tough to handle all at once.