B13 Thoughts and Comments - Page 512

theRealist · 03-05-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chopstickchick

And left all his pizza crusts out for Melissa to pick up on the seattle date

My mom said if you ever want a man to respect and fall in love with you, never ever clean up his place, or you will remind him of his mother.

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coastalbc · 03-05-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Polgara

OK so now that Melissa admitted that her and Jason had already broken up prior to the AFTR and she said the only thing she was blind sided by was that he was still thinking about Molly based on what she said on Ellen I don't understand why some people are still so ticked off at him?

I still think he's more boring than generic toilet paper, but...

I completely agree with the bolded section. Again, folks, it is a reality show. To continue to bash them, doesn't make any sense....... IMHO, Melissa isn't as much of a victim as she was portrayed to be on AFTR1.

sdl · 03-05-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by one71721

She's already back peddled on the move to Seattle.. In an article from wherever she lives she said she is NOT moving to Seattle they are taking things slow.

The way they all double talk, I took that to mean the relationship was already over.

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Funny you should say that........
I have heard that Molly's family is horrified by this mess, and not big fans of Jason or the relationship.
Not unexpected, I suppose.

theRealist · 03-05-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sdl

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Funny you should say that........
I have heard that Molly's family is horrified by this mess, and not big fans of Jason or the relationship.
Not unexpected, I suppose.

I was waiting for this to get out, I knew it would be only a matter of time they would be disgusted by the whole thing.

Bonbonlover · 03-05-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by coastalbc

ITA completely denise. For someone that said that she was so deeply in love, she seemed to get over it rather quickly. IMHO, she wasn't as much of a victim in the situation than portrayed on the AFTR1.....

I know MANY women who have been deeply in love, were raising the children, and totally loving their relationship until the man walked out. Those women, in an effort to validate themselves and not feel like total losers immediately started dating. Is it right? Is it wrong? IDK... but it is part of the process for some.

Bloomers · 03-05-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coastalbc

I completely agree with the bolded section. Again, folks, it is a reality show. To continue to bash them, doesn't make any sense....... IMHO, Melissa isn't as much of a victim as she was portrayed to be on AFTR1.

You of all people know I tried very hard to be impartial this season and sleuthe out the answers.

I believe that if we were ever to find out all the answers or even have the ones submitted verified beyond refutation, we would find that Melissa was much more of a victim than we saw on the ATFR.

Putting it all together from what Fleiss has said, and he only bothers to protest slightly, with the sleuthing stats and the editing, I think it is more of a matter of when and how it was presented to Jason to make the F2 the F1 as the theme rather than if it was done.

Big hint: Melissa said he changed immediately after they returned from NZ.
IMO, in his mind he had fulfilled his obligation to the producers to make Melissa think she was F1. In his mind he had already switched to Molly and how to make that part of the operation begin to work.

BTW, you were Jillian's #1 fan. She is now in the hands of Fleiss. God bless her. You might want to start doing whatever form of positive thinking you personally feel for her beginning now.

Bonbonlover · 03-05-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sdl

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Funny you should say that........
I have heard that Molly's family is horrified by this mess, and not big fans of Jason or the relationship.
Not unexpected, I suppose.

sdl... I would expect that any family would not be happy if their daughter were involved in this mess... Where did you "hear" this? Is it a reliable source or merely a poster who would, rightly so, believes that no parents could like this???

one71721 · 03-05-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonbonlover

I know MANY women who have been deeply in love, were raising the children, and totally loving their relationship until the man walked out. Those women, in an effort to validate themselves and not feel like total losers immediately started dating. Is it right? Is it wrong? IDK... but it is part of the process for some.

She also stated that it was almost immediately that the "chemistry" (jasons word) had changed and Jason pulled away, so she had some time to realize that it wasn't going to work. Once he admitted on TV that all along it was Molly I'm sure it was so very easy for her to completely cut the emotional ties that she seemed to be hanging on to by a thread. And really can you blame her..look at that guy and look at Jason..geez jason couldn't even carry his shoes.

ducky2 · 03-05-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by coastalbc

ITA completely denise. For someone that said that she was so deeply in love, she seemed to get over it rather quickly. IMHO, she wasn't as much of a victim in the situation than portrayed on the AFTR1.....

But isn't that the way it seems with all of those women who are rejected in the end? Jenni's ex met her at the airport. Melissa's had more than 6 weeks to try to move on since the AFTR1, and it sounds like even longer if Jason removed himself emotionally very early. I think she was hurt that she thought he loved her and then did a complete 180 almost immediately. She'd been left wondering what went wrong for weeks. That had to be painful. I also don't think she's "playing the victim". She has a right to be angry because he wasn't honest.

I don't agree that we should be hating Jason and Molly at all, and I hope it works out for them. But you'd think they'd have some regret regarding Melissa's pain and their own deceitfulness.

I'msotired · 03-05-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by theRealist

My mom said if you ever want a man to respect and fall in love with you, never ever clean up his place, or you will remind him of his mother.

Love that! I better email that to my daughters. Can I use that as an excuse for not cleaning up after my husband (or my son or myself) for the last 10 days? "Honey, I know I haven't vacuumed or cleaned the bathrooms, but I don't want to remind you of your mom." Love it!