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Old 03-05-2009, 02:38 PM   #5101
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I'm banking on it!
She's already back peddled on the move to Seattle.. In an article from wherever she lives she said she is NOT moving to Seattle they are taking things slow.

The way they all double talk, I took that to mean the relationship was already over.

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Old 03-05-2009, 02:41 PM   #5102
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OK so now that Melissa admitted that her and Jason had already broken up prior to the AFTR and she said the only thing she was blind sided by was that he was still thinking about Molly based on what she said on Ellen I don't understand why some people are still so ticked off at him?

I still think he's more boring than generic toilet paper, but...
I can't speak for everyone, but I am ticked off that he entered into an engagement with one woman when he knew (or should have known) that he had extremely strong feelings for another woman. Then, not more than a few weeks, maybe less, into said engagement, he emotionally "checks out" because he can't stop thinking about the other woman. Then, when his fiancee asks him what the problem is, he gives her a cock and bull story and lies to her when she asks him repeatedly if he is thinking about/contacting the other woman, leaving her scrambling to try to figure out how to fix/change herself to save a relationship that was already dead.

I guess some may excuse this behavior because he was "following his heart". Sorry, I don't.
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I can't speak for everyone, but I am ticked off that he entered into an engagement with one woman when he knew (or should have known) that he had extremely strong feelings for another woman. Then, not more than a few weeks, maybe less, into said engagement, he emotionally "checks out" because he can't stop thinking about the other woman. Then, when his fiancee asks him what the problem is, he gives her a cock and bull story and lies to her when she asks him repeatedly if he is thinking about/contacting the other woman, leaving her scrambling to try to figure out how to fix/change herself to save a relationship that was already dead.

I guess some may excuse this behavior because he was "following his heart". Sorry, I don't.
Me either..it was the cruelest thing to do to someone that gave you their heart and their trust.
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She's already back peddled on the move to Seattle.. In an article from whereever she lives she said she is NOT moving to Seattle they are taking things slow.

The way they all double talk, I took that to mean the relationship was already over.
Yeah, wait until she hears the stories of his ex paying him child support, living in an apartment with his brother, and realizes she was his third choice in 8 months! All she 'won' was the heart of the most hated man in America! Ain't love grand!
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Yeah, wait until she hears the stories of his ex paying him child support, living in an apartment with his brother, and realizes she was his third choice in 8 months! All she 'won' was the heart of the most hated man in America! Ain't love grand!
and he can't clean up after himself - when he was interviewed at his home at the beginning of the season he had dirty laundry piled up all over the floor - could have at least tidied up when he knew a camera crew was coming. And left all his pizza crusts out for Melissa to pick up on the seattle date
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Yeah, wait until she hears the stories of his ex paying him child support, living in an apartment with his brother, and realizes she was his third choice in 8 months! All she 'won' was the heart of the most hated man in America! Ain't love grand!
Since Molly is so much more mature and has so many more life experiences than Melissa, she should know this:

If he cheats on her with you, he'll cheat on you with someone else.
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That is a great story and I think very pertinent to Jason and Molly. I always though Molly was a better match. I am uncomfortable with the witch hunt going on at the moment. Jason and Molly haven't committed any crime and Melissa certainly seems to have got over Jason quickly enough.
ITA completely denise. For someone that said that she was so deeply in love, she seemed to get over it rather quickly. IMHO, she wasn't as much of a victim in the situation than portrayed on the AFTR1.....
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Fleiss says emphatically that TB contract does not require anyone to break up on camera ("take a look at the contract; that would be impossible; how would you draft such a thing?")
Jason says in his most recent interview that he did seek and was given permission to contact Molly after the FRC.
Melissa has confirmed that the emails are real.
All things previously reported but until now, still controversial.
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Just for the sake of discussion, Molly's behavior. What was anymore wrong with the massage scene than Jill's hot tub scene which was very explicit sexually and everyone thought it humorous and what about the scene where Melissa has a mini meltdown about Jason and she is falling for him and he ends up on top of her on the sofa and running his hand up her thigh to her butt. Then we can go back to Brad's season when 4 or 5 girls stripped naked and jumped in the pool on camera. Taking into perspective what has occurred on these show's and probably a lot of what we have not seen, and there have been probably 1,000 or more itsy bitsy bikini's, including Melissa, why the attacks of Molly? Also, Molly running water from a hose down Jason front while in a embrace, is that not sexy?

Im not questioning you, I am just not understanding the singling out of Molly and her massage date.
Oh, I was not singling out her massage date behavior with this comment. I agree that it wasn't any more racy than Jillian in the hot tub or other antics we've seen on the show. The behavior I was referring to that could negate her status as a victim was the fact that she may have had a hand in victimizing Melissa herself by being in contact with Jason behind her back. And note, I am saying, "may have", I am not saying she did, although most signs point to yes....

Hope that clears it up.
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Fleiss says emphatically that TB contract does not require anyone to break up on camera ("take a look at the contract; that would be impossible; how would you draft such a thing?")
Jason says in his most recent interview that he did seek and was given permission to contact Molly after the FRC.
Melissa has confirmed that the emails are real.
All things previously reported but until now, still controversial.
Since most of his private financial affairs have been made public by both Inside and Extra, would you please tell me, if you know, at what price Jason sold his soul to the devil?

What was he paid to be the Bachelor and end up completely tarnishing his reputation?
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