B13 Thoughts and Comments

[jlccaz]

Originally Posted by chucksmiles

I hope this isn't a big rehash, but here it goes....I know everyone thinks Natalie gets the heli date, but when have you ever seen a helicopter look that plush (pic of Jason and Natalie sitting together on white) it looks more like a private jet, think pretty woman scene. I don't discount her getting the concert/Vegas trip, but not in a helicopter! Has this been explained by all the great sluthers on here yet?

They fly from LA to Vegas on a private plane, and while they are there get a Red Rock heli tour is my guess

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[MsFroggy]

Originally Posted by Beagle

What's even worse to me is that he's going to be " in love " with the final 2 and then the morning of the FRC he'll have an epiphany and clearly realize that he's in love with Melissa instead of Molly. Do TPTB think we are that dumb?

He will be deeply, deeply and amazingly in love, but like all Bachelors that ABC miraculously manages to dig up from among some very peculiar species of human only they know how to find, he will be in a general sort of love until the very last minute.

Then, on the morning of the FRC, which is usually spent at the Bachelor villa, perhaps due to the lavish surroundings or a lack of sleep or both, his generalized sort of love will turn into a specific kind of love mostly because it has to due to lack of time. Deanna didn't know till the morning of either, but then she was absolutely sure. It's quite, er, amazing, really.

I think the show is not about the Bachelor finding a wife at all. It's about how well the Bachelor is able to con the F2 so that she'd be shocked and hurt when she's not picked. Now, that's a talent!

[bizbachfan]

so true, that is why I think Brad freaked out and backed out of the whole thing. In his case both ladies fell even though he didn't really give them that much to go on. I think the whole hot millionaire thing worked in his favor. My gut feeling is though Jenni was not in love, she was still hoping to reunite with her ex the whole time. But she played her part well

[Bjaminsmom]

Originally Posted by Capegal

NETCAM - Melissa is by farrrrrrrrr not a D look-a-like - not by a mile.............

I agree Capegal - Melissa's beauty is way more than D. It's the beauty that is within her that outshines D by a mile.

I stopped watching half way during Matt's season as I felt it was a total set-up. I didn't watch D's show as I thought she was just an ugly personality on Brad's season, but I did read the boards. But I liked Jason from the previews of the new show and decided to watch. I saw Melissa on DCC: Making the Team and liked her then. She was sweet and spunky, basically an exact opposite of DeAnna. She may resemble her in coloring but this woman is by far more beautiful.

I did not read the boards until after the first show so had no idea she was in the running but was rooting for her the first night just by her personality alone on the DCC show.

It's good to be back on the boards. I love chatting with you all.

[BlondieGal]

Originally Posted by Netcam

Not having seen the first show or looked at this forum for quite awhile, I'm surprised that:
1) There are so many posts already and it has been going for awhile!
2) You guys have already sleuthed up enough evidence to have a pretty high confidence in who the F1 is!!
3) That the suspected F1 of Melissa, from pics, bio, and comments read, she could be Deanna's sister ... even her twin!!!

That is rather ironic and too funny, does she have a Texan accent as compared to D's Georgia accent?!
I did view Jason as a nice guy but somewhat dull and set in his ways, and now he may pick a Deanna lookalike!
From all of that, I don't hold out much hope that it will work out in the end. Bachelor 13 is rather unlucky too.

Perhaps a way to look at it is if Melissa were The Bachelorette, would Jason be picked as the F1 against 24 other men.

I did not post last season, but I felt that once Graham took himself out of the show that the show was over. Anyone who was F1 would be fulfilling a role, and I could not see DeAnna, given her career aspirations, would choose being a step-mother. It did not matter to me who was F1 because I doubted it would last past the media ride.

[angelic_one2002]

Originally Posted by BlondieGal

Perhaps a way to look at it is if Melissa were The Bachelorette, would Jason be picked as the F1 against 24 other men.

I did not post last season, but I felt that once Graham took himself out of the show that the show was over. Anyone who was F1 would be fulfilling a role, and I could not see DeAnna, given her career aspirations, would choose being a step-mother. It did not matter to me who was F1 because I doubted it would last past the media ride.

Totally the way I felt too, BlondieGal. Once Graham left, the show was over.

[jlccaz]

Originally Posted by BlondieGal

Perhaps a way to look at it is if Melissa were The Bachelorette, would Jason be picked as the F1 against 24 other men.

I did not post last season, but I felt that once Graham took himself out of the show that the show was over. Anyone who was F1 would be fulfilling a role, and I could not see DeAnna, given her career aspirations, would choose being a step-mother. It did not matter to me who was F1 because I doubted it would last past the media ride.

Isn't it ironic that -- like parents watching their children making life choices -- "we" the viewers can usually see the way things will turn out, before the participants themselves?

I am one who thinks Jesse/Deanna thought they had a chance of being a real couple, as did Andy/Tessa, and legions before them, as of the wrap party. Of course, observers could see it would never work.

As someone once noted brilliantly (wasn't it you, Bloomers) -- the edit usually reveals the reasons a couple won't last, but most are so busy watching some love story unfold, they miss or dismiss the clues. Tessa's reluctance to commit to the Andy Show. Deanna's incompatibility with the life of a snowboarder. After all, the producers have spent six weeks of often 14hr+ days with the Bachelor, and watched all those interactions, and had all those personal (if manipulative) chats with the characters. They can see what the tensions are that will cause a break-up once the Highs's of filming and airing and post show publicity dissipate. And the show is seeded with that information as well.

Jason/Melissa will have those issues. The format (that is, the circumstances under which they became a couple) demands it. They might overcome it. But with history as a guide, that seems unlikely.

[cantstopwatchin]

Originally Posted by i<3realitytv

I know you don't want to hear this Capegal, but I actually think that they look very alike. Not alike in the way they act or anything but their features. JMO

AND it looks like Jason likes this look ~ a girl with dark skin, who is brunette, outgoing and adventurous.

Have to raise my hand and say I agree with this too. When I first saw her as they were introducing the girls (and I hadn't been into the spoiler section of FoRT yet so I didn't know who she was!), I thought the same thing-- that she was a more-in-shape Deanna. Then I saw some of the faces she made during the episode and my jaw dropped.

The funny thing is that her personality seems like it's going to be more of a Jenni (guess that makes sense if she's a cheerleader!), but her comment about the wedding dress reminded me of Lisa from PLo.

Now, knowing what I know, I guess they left the wedding dress comment in as foreshadowing to the ending...

Originally Posted by i<3realitytv

However, I do think Melissa has this spunk and contagious appeal that DeAnna does not.

Sorry, I don't feel the warm and fuzzies for her yet. That was just my first impression after the first episode. Funny b/c I really liked Jenni after her 1st episode...but I'm not feeling 'it' with Melissa yet.

ETA: Didn't realize you'd already said she was like Jenni, Nennie Great call!

[chucksmiles]

Originally Posted by cantstopwatchin

Have to raise my hand and say I agree with this too. When I first saw her as they were introducing the girls (and I hadn't been into the spoiler section of FoRT yet so I didn't know who she was!), I thought the same thing-- that she was a more-in-shape Deanna. Then I saw some of the faces she made during the episode and my jaw dropped.

The funny thing is that her personality seems like it's going to be more of a Jenni (guess that makes sense if she's a cheerleader!), but her comment about the wedding dress reminded me of Lisa from PLo.

Now, knowing what I know, I guess they left the wedding dress comment in as foreshadowing to the ending...

totally agree...I'm sure she was just joking (said in jest) but very much a foreshadow!

[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by BlondieGal

Perhaps a way to look at it is if Melissa were The Bachelorette, would Jason be picked as the F1 against 24 other men.

I did not post last season, but I felt that once Graham took himself out of the show that the show was over. Anyone who was F1 would be fulfilling a role, and I could not see DeAnna, given her career aspirations, would choose being a step-mother. It did not matter to me who was F1 because I doubted it would last past the media ride.

The editing was so rawly, cruelly blatant with Graham that for the life of me I could not understand how DeAnna kept saying that she was pleased with the way that she was being shown ( edited). What the heck???? If she were supposed to have been in love with anybody else, whether it was Jason or Jesse, would she have been pleased with the way that her total breakdown with Graham was shown when he left? She visually and verbally gave it all away herself. The edit in this case was merely a reflection of the events that happened.

Although I thought from an editing standpoint that they were going to try to show us how she had been been building another relationship simultaneously that we would see take front and center ( none did that was obviously that convincing if you read the boards), I actually thought it was an unrealistic belief based on what I had seen and heard of her actual interactions with Graham.
Also, if you will remember a couple of times, Jason commented ( with concern) on her relationship with Graham - although never with Jesse. That too is interesting that he saw it with Graham but not Jesse, both personally and from an editing standpoint.