B13 Thoughts and Comments

[peacemar33]

Originally Posted by sweetpea

I think it should end with a final rose and a "I choose you" to the F1. Leave the engagement out of things! In this day and age though, to so many people, engagements and even marriage are not the commitment they used to be (Britney Spears quickie wedding in Vegas anyone?). Shows like this don't help IMO because it seems like it's just part of the script, and after so many disappointments there are fewer and fewer people who actually believe that the couple will marry and stay married. Frankly, Trista and Ryan were an anomaly and I credit their success to the fact that Trista was truly, completely, and absolutely ready to find her guy and get married and make it work. I don't think, after all this time, she went on the Bachelorette to stroke her ego (like a lot of the Bachelors) but instead she was on a mission and she made it work.

I don't think Jason should propose to his F1. He and his child have been through a divorce once already, and I am sure he doesn't want to go through it again. At the very least, if they do go through with the public proposal for the tv audiences, then take a long time getting to know each other before walking down any aisles.

Totally agree on this. How many of these couples have we seen go through this and then break up shortly after. I mean the ones that were sincere.

Both Jason and F1 need to take a good deal of time after the show is done airing to really find out if they are meant to be. I would hate to see him have to get divorced again.

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[VelvetRed]

Originally Posted by sweetpea

I think it should end with a final rose and a "I choose you" to the F1. Leave the engagement out of things! In this day and age though, to so many people, engagements and even marriage are not the commitment they used to be (Britney Spears quickie wedding in Vegas anyone?). Shows like this don't help IMO because it seems like it's just part of the script, and after so many disappointments there are fewer and fewer people who actually believe that the couple will marry and stay married. Frankly, Trista and Ryan were an anomaly and I credit their success to the fact that Trista was truly, completely, and absolutely ready to find her guy and get married and make it work. I don't think, after all this time, she went on the Bachelorette to stroke her ego (like a lot of the Bachelors) but instead she was on a mission and she made it work.

I don't think Jason should propose to his F1. He and his child have been through a divorce once already, and I am sure he doesn't want to go through it again. At the very least, if they do go through with the public proposal for the tv audiences, then take a long time getting to know each other before walking down any aisles.

I have a slightly different take on it, but I agree with the last half of your last sentence that I bolded.

Trista's mission was to become rich and famous, and she used The Bachelor and then The Bachelorette as stepping stones. She had her disgustingly lavish wedding televised and paid for by ABC. She and Ryan then had their own reality show (I've heard, anyway) including their baby on it, and frequently appeared and continue to appear (with their child) in posed photographs for feature articles. I'm just waiting for the birth of their second child to be televised (and paid for) on television, and then maybe the conception, entire pregnancy, and birth of their third child.

[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by VelvetRed

I have a slightly different take on it, but I agree with the last half of your last sentence that I bolded.

Trista's mission was to become rich and famous, and she used The Bachelor and then The Bachelorette as stepping stones. She had her disgustingly lavish wedding televised and paid for by ABC. She and Ryan then had their own reality show (I've heard, anyway) including their baby on it, and frequently appeared and continue to appear (with their child) in posed photographs for feature articles. I'm just waiting for the birth of their second child to be televised (and paid for) on television, and then maybe the conception, entire pregnancy, and birth of their third child.

It's true that Trista may indeed have financially capitalized on her Bachelorette experience; however, I have always said that she went in determined to find somebody and come out with a husband. I think she was probably ready to settle down when she was in the first Bachelor when she was rejected at F2.

They gave her a good group of guys to work with. She had a good time, but you could tell she meant business as she systematically went through the process eliminating those who just didn't do it for her. Even the F3 who most definitely got the obsessed/stalker edit was in actuality really a good guy.

When she got down to the F2, it was as though you could see the wheels turning in her head. Charlie was the good-looking, suave hunk she had always dated, but sweet, quiet also good-looking Ryan with his pitiful but loving attempt at poetry had that something and the tenacity to hang in there and just plain court her right up to asking her father for her hand at her parents' visit - which was the first time we had seen that, and it wasn't producer generated either. Although her father was overall much more impressed with Charlie ( the slick, smooth operator imo), that "ask Dad for her hand" impressed the very dickens out of him. It was at that point that Ryan undercut Charlie imo.

That is the series that didn't leave many people doubting. Charlie fans who had been swooning all season were disappointed, but even they could see that she had opened up, let Ryan in, and followed her heart.

BTW, I am not one of their worshippers, but they did do it up right as far as the show went which is why their names continue to come up.

[sweetpea]

Originally Posted by Bloomers

they did do it up right as far as the show went which is why their names continue to come up.

Yes, they did do it right, and they were also very, very lucky. Somehow since then I just don't sense that, dare I say it, connection () between two people enough that I believe they could make a marriage work. The only other two I thought might make it were Byron and Mary, and at least they are still together despite their troubles. I didn't watch Charlie's season but I think he also went about things the right way after the final rose was given, getting to know someone without all the giddy-proposal-marriage thing.

[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by sweetpea

Yes, they did do it right, and they were also very, very lucky. Somehow since then I just don't sense that, dare I say it, connection () between two people enough that I believe they could make a marriage work. The only other two I thought might make it were Byron and Mary, and at least they are still together despite their troubles. I didn't watch Charlie's season but I think he also went about things the right way after the final rose was given, getting to know someone without all the giddy-proposal-marriage thing.

I think with Trista it was a combination of the fact that she was so determined to make it work and come out with a husband, and he just was head over heels in love with her. They have said it was hard work, and I believe that, but I don't think any amount of hard work would have made this process work without those two ingredients.

[sweetpea]

You know, you're right. She found a gem in Ryan, because he was truly head over heels for her and was ready to marry her immediately. She took the lead and sheer determination and the right choices made it work for her. Lucky girl, he's a gorgeous man!

[SDMOM]

Originally Posted by Bloomers

I think with Trista it was a combination of the fact that she was so determined to make it work and come out with a husband, and he just was head over heels in love with her. They have said it was hard work, and I believe that, but I don't think any amount of hard work would have made this process work without those two ingredients.

I also admire Trista's willingness to relocate, even though she said she's a warm-weather girl.
I always feel that if the F1 is willing to move, then the relationship will more than likely to last, such as Sarah in Charlie's season. Did Byron move to be with Mary? I didn't watch that season. On the other hand, Tessa and Jennifer (P-Lo's chosen one) never moved and look what happened. That's why I want to hear Melissa is planning to move soon...., oh, well, only time will tell.

[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by sweetpea

You know, you're right. She found a gem in Ryan, because he was truly head over heels for her and was ready to marry her immediately. She took the lead and sheer determination and the right choices made it work for her. Lucky girl, he's a gorgeous man!

I think you have nailed it. I was thinking, though, that it was almost old-fashioned in its way. He wooed her and courted her ( old, old words that just fit) with poetry and gifts and declarations of heartfelt affection right up to her father's house where he asked for her hand which shocked her father and shocked us too.

It was and continues to be a very good love story.

[Propie]

Originally Posted by SDMOM

I also admire Trista's willingness to relocate, even though she said she's a warm-weather girl.
I always feel that if the F1 is willing to move, then the relationship will more than likely to last, such as Sarah in Charlie's season. Did Byron move to be with Mary? I didn't watch that season. On the other hand, Tessa and Jennifer (P-Lo's chosen one) never moved and look what happened. That's why I want to hear Melissa is planning to move soon...., oh, well, only time will tell.

I'm interested to see how it will all play out, especially since they have to take Ty into consideration. I would 'hope' she would move sooner than later, but not do anything to fast. I know a lot of people would love for her to move out there ASAP and get married right away (especially for publicity purposes). Considering there is a child involved, I think things have to be done differently this time - for the sake of the couple and the child....then again if Jason is as intelligent as I think he is, he already knows this...

[FairyTaleLove]

Originally Posted by Propie

I'm interested to see how it will all play out, especially since they have to take Ty into consideration. I would 'hope' she would move sooner than later, but not do anything to fast. I know a lot of people would love for her to move out there ASAP and get married right away (especially for publicity purposes). Considering there is a child involved, I think things have to be done differently this time - for the sake of the couple and the child....then again if Jason is as intelligent as I think he is, he already knows this...

I would love to see her move out there within six months, but NOT to move in with them. You can't really know how well you'll get along if all you ever do is live long distance. My hubby and I met online actually, through match.com. We lived about an hour and a half apart and after a time, I moved to be closer to him. It worked in our favor (yay ) and I think it's a really important step in anything that starts long distance. And geesh, they're talking STATES, not just bridges and cities. LOL