B13 Thoughts and Comments - Page 107

Six Degrees · 01-15-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZulaMay

The other girl that doesn't seem all that into him to me is Molly. True, she is not shy about pursuing him; but it seems as though she is into the competition. Or perhaps she is just overconfident? I haven't see her get giddy or insecure or rave about how good he looks shirtless. Some of these girls (Natalie, Shannon, Jillian, Melissa) have been shown to be visibly nervous and gaga over him.

It's entirely possible that she has said those sorts of things but we have not seen them. Since we know Molly is F2, it's doubtful that she's just been sort of meh on Jason. Keep in mind Fleiss and the editors know we're going to want to see the tears and drama of the other girls who are going to be cut. In order for subsequent cuts to be dramatic there needs to be a build up of different girls saying how crazy they are about Jason. Molly still has plenty of time for the perennial "I've fallen in love with Jason" voiceover right before she gets her heart broken.

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grneyedgirl · 01-15-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oldlurker

Since an engagement is NOT a marriage but a time to "test" the relationship, I think that the proposal makes for a lovely ending to the show.

This is where I disagree--I view an engagement as a commitment to marry. I think that the relationship needs to be tested prior to being engaged. The way I look at it, being engaged means that one knows they are going to marry the other person--they just need to plan the wedding and party.

Rmticathrt · 01-15-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by grneyedgirl

This is where I disagree--I view an engagement as a commitment to marry. I think that the relationship needs to be tested prior to being engaged. The way I look at it, being engaged means that one knows they are going to marry the other person--they just need to plan the wedding and party.

I totally agree. It used to be that an engagement was as good as married, the marriage was necessary in order to consumate it.

KashatheDiva · 01-15-2009, 10:26 PM

As far as a time to test the relationship, that is an ongoing process--the testing part --as long as the relationship continues to grow and change. Ask anyone who has been married--there are constant tests and challenges.

rileymeboy · 01-15-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by grneyedgirl

This is where I disagree--I view an engagement as a commitment to marry. I think that the relationship needs to be tested prior to being engaged. The way I look at it, being engaged means that one knows they are going to marry the other person--they just need to plan the wedding and party.

Hi, I agree with you grneyedgirl. An engagement is a commitment to marry, a promise ring would be so much better or maybe an engagement ring worn on the right hand until they have decided to marry. Then, it could be placed on the left hand. It's always better to take things one step at a time.

I think this would also remove the pressure and relieve some of the hurt that the person being dumped feels.

Noobslueth · 01-15-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by grneyedgirl

This is where I disagree--I view an engagement as a commitment to marry. I think that the relationship needs to be tested prior to being engaged. The way I look at it, being engaged means that one knows they are going to marry the other person--they just need to plan the wedding and party.

ENgagement is a green light for brides and their mom's to go plan the wedding they have thinking about since the beginning of the relationship hehe

northernviewer · 01-15-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by grneyedgirl

This is where I disagree--I view an engagement as a commitment to marry. I think that the relationship needs to be tested prior to being engaged. The way I look at it, being engaged means that one knows they are going to marry the other person--they just need to plan the wedding and party.

That's the way I see it too - I think the Bach should end with a final rose and that's it.... period. Then do a show later to see how it's working out... after all, enquiring minds want to know

rileymeboy · 01-15-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by northernviewer

That's the way I see it too - I think the Bach should end with a final rose and that's it.... period. Then do a show later to see how it's working out... after all, enquiring minds want to know

Good Idea!

Bloomers · 01-15-2009, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by grneyedgirl
This is where I disagree--I view an engagement as a commitment to marry. I think that the relationship needs to be tested prior to being engaged. The way I look at it, being engaged means that one knows they are going to marry the other person--they just need to plan the wedding and party.

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Originally Posted by Noobslueth

ENgagement is a green light for brides and their mom's to go plan the wedding they have thinking about since the beginning of the relationship hehe

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I agree with both of these posts. Although you do hear of engagements that go on and on and then sputter (cough, Ian), basically the idea of an engagement means you plan to marry in the near future.
The "getting to know you" phase should be done before that.

sweetpea · 01-15-2009, 11:59 PM

I think it should end with a final rose and a "I choose you" to the F1. Leave the engagement out of things! In this day and age though, to so many people, engagements and even marriage are not the commitment they used to be (Britney Spears quickie wedding in Vegas anyone?). Shows like this don't help IMO because it seems like it's just part of the script, and after so many disappointments there are fewer and fewer people who actually believe that the couple will marry and stay married. Frankly, Trista and Ryan were an anomaly and I credit their success to the fact that Trista was truly, completely, and absolutely ready to find her guy and get married and make it work. I don't think, after all this time, she went on the Bachelorette to stroke her ego (like a lot of the Bachelors) but instead she was on a mission and she made it work.

I don't think Jason should propose to his F1. He and his child have been through a divorce once already, and I am sure he doesn't want to go through it again. At the very least, if they do go through with the public proposal for the tv audiences, then take a long time getting to know each other before walking down any aisles.

01-15-2009, 10:26 PM	#1064
KashatheDiva FORT Fogey Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,571	Re: B13 Thoughts and Comments As far as a time to test the relationship, that is an ongoing process--the testing part --as long as the relationship continues to grow and change. Ask anyone who has been married--there are constant tests and challenges. __________________ Shout out to Brad: "Hey bud, got any more of those meatball sandwiches? Extra sauce and cheese this time and skip the napkins. This is going to be Messy!" Hey Trista: "ok...enough of this back & forth...gotta change diapers & go for a walk."

01-15-2009, 11:59 PM	#1070
sweetpea One World Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,869	Re: B13 Thoughts and Comments I think it should end with a final rose and a "I choose you" to the F1. Leave the engagement out of things! In this day and age though, to so many people, engagements and even marriage are not the commitment they used to be (Britney Spears quickie wedding in Vegas anyone?). Shows like this don't help IMO because it seems like it's just part of the script, and after so many disappointments there are fewer and fewer people who actually believe that the couple will marry and stay married. Frankly, Trista and Ryan were an anomaly and I credit their success to the fact that Trista was truly, completely, and absolutely ready to find her guy and get married and make it work. I don't think, after all this time, she went on the Bachelorette to stroke her ego (like a lot of the Bachelors) but instead she was on a mission and she made it work. I don't think Jason should propose to his F1. He and his child have been through a divorce once already, and I am sure he doesn't want to go through it again. At the very least, if they do go through with the public proposal for the tv audiences, then take a long time getting to know each other before walking down any aisles.