Bachelor 13 - Media **Spoilers**

[anders332]

Originally Posted by kultainen

Mel did not leak them. But really, who cares? All they have done is show the lies that Jason has told and in some ways forced him closer to the truth. And that's a bad thing, how?

go back and read my other posts - i've said there is no proof that Mel leaked those emails, none whatsoever.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm glad they're out there, and I dont want anyone getting blamed for the leak when there's no proof...

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[n4692u]

Originally Posted by TNmomof4

I agree. I think a lot of what she's saying now is probably 20/20 hindsight. At the time she didn't see understand or see clearly because she was so emotionally involved.

I think that's basicly what she said to Ellen yesterday. She said they talked about how difficult it was (in the real world) and she said he just gave up. She didn't understand why he gave up and backed away from her then, but she does now. Said she knows now there was someone else in the picture (Molly) that she didn't know about then.

[gruder]

Originally Posted by kultainen

Mel did not leak them. But really, who cares? All they have done is show the lies that Jason has told and in some ways forced him closer to the truth. And that's a bad thing, how?

You are correct, Mel didn't leak the emails. But she sent them, after she told Jason not to contact her, in any way, shape or form. You can defend her forever, I really don't care. The bottom line is all of them have been a victim. You can spin it any way you want, but Melissa is not the only one who suffered.

[anders332]

Originally Posted by gruder

You are correct, Mel didn't leak the emails. But she sent them, after she told Jason not to contact her, in any way, shape or form. You can defend her forever, I really don't care. The bottom line is all of them have been a victim. You can spin it any way you want, but Melissa is not the only one who suffered.

can you enlighten me on how Jason is a victim?

[n4692u]

Originally Posted by pajamasam

Well, it seems that Melissa has confirmed that she was not blindsided at the ATFR1 because she claimed they were already broken up. I'd say that's a pretty good source to back up the veracity of what Jason had to say on that subject. I'm certainly rethinking my opinion of him.

What Mel was so mad about and blindsided about was when he told her about Molly at the ATFR1. When she asked him about it in the past, he had said no. Right before they went for the taping in January, she specifically asked him if she was going to be blindsided by anything and he said nooooo and then at the ATFR1 BAM! That's what she lost it about. She told Ellen that they had mutually ended the relationship the week before so that wasn't an issue. I'm pretty sure she believes what RS says about the "scripted ending".

[MissThing]

Originally Posted by kultainen

Mel did not leak them. But really, who cares? All they have done is show the lies that Jason has told and in some ways forced him closer to the truth. And that's a bad thing, how?

That has to mean that Jason did, then, yes? I mean, it's emails between two individuals, so only two parties can have leaked them.

I care, I care because it's all just so fishy. It's going to take quite a bit for me to get my arms around Jason leaking them. That leaves Melissa. And, sorry to say, it just seem so much more likely that she's the 'culprit' in this particular circumstance, since she's the only one with something to gain. (Unless, of course, one elects to credit that the production staff was so outraged that they not only had the ability to get their hands on those emails, but that they then chose, against all their best interest, including earing a living, to release them. Sorry, again, the MissThing sniff test says a whopping 'no' to that.)

[Bet2Win]

Originally Posted by anders332

can you enlighten me on how Jason is a victim?

Because Dee dumped him?

Because he over his decision/indecision?

Because bad Fleiss made him do it?


Or, is it because he so desperately needs to be with a woman, that he chooses anyone that is standing in front of him?

[DejvuMoment]

Originally Posted by SweetAchar137

I caught part of the Ellen interview. I hated the part where Molly said "if there's any time to be selfish, it's when love is involved." I think that's totally wrong, personally. Isn't love supposed to be about being selfless?? If it's not, it's not really love to begin with. I sort of saw where Molly was coming from with that statement, but I'm sure the way she put it did not endear herself to anyone who saw it.

The words of an expert, no doubt. What a delusional bitch!

[KareyR2]

In case you are tired of debating the whole Jay/Mol/Mel fiasco and are looking for a little bit of levity and fun...I would suggest that you all go to youtube and search for a 3 part interview that Jilly did over a week ago on Breakfast Television out of Vancouver. Riaz the host is quite a cutey and seems a bit smitten with our Jilly. The interviews were funny, creative and a hoot....and Part 2 and 3 being the best, and Jilly and Riaz had a great "connection". I haven't seen how to find them posted anywhere here, but there is a write up about them on Jillian's thread. Also..you might see some Jilly/Riaz supporters with new avatars....

So at youtube jazzyweathergirl posted the 3 parter and if you search exactly with these titles written as is, they should work...(I Hope)

JILLIAN from the Bachelor on Breakfast Television Part 1

Jillian from the Bachelor on Breakfast Television part 2

Jillian Harris picks her BT Bachelor! part 3

Also one this week where Riaz interviewed Jilly over the phone was also put up by CitytvVancouver. Search with
Jillian Harris is the new Bachelorette!

Hope this works, and I hope you enjoy. I found them to be a total hoot....especially Part 2 and 3.
Karey

[athomeinfrisco]

Originally Posted by MissThing

That has to mean that Jason did, then, yes? I mean, it's emails between two individuals, so only two parties can have leaked them.

I care, I care because it's all just so fishy. It's going to take quite a bit for me to get my arms around Jason leaking them. That leaves Melissa. And, sorry to say, it just seem so much more likely that she's the 'culprit' in this particular circumstance, since she's the only one with something to gain. (Unless, of course, one elects to credit that the production staff was so outraged that they not only had the ability to get their hands on those emails, but that they then chose, against all their best interest, including earing a living, to release them. Sorry, again, the MissThing sniff test says a whopping 'no' to that.)

It's possible Jason or Mel didn't purposely 'leak' them but that they sent them to a friend or relative and they got leaked that way...