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Old 03-04-2009, 03:30 PM   #5101
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Thought yall would find this funny. I signed up for news letters for chat with women out of seattle last year when Jason was on there. I got my newsletter today by email and I emailed them back and asked if Jason was going to come back on the show. Pam emailed me back as said. No, we don't like him any more.....
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:32 PM   #5102
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Rochelle just emailed me to: this was her response:

No we are VERY upset with him! And what's to say that in a few weeks - he's done with Molly? No we are done with Jason!
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Fleiss: Believe me, that heartache that Molly experienced the first time was probably not that much different than the heartache that Melissa experienced in the ATFR. He was dumping the both of them on camera.[/i]

What a sick sick thing to say.
I totally agree with Fleiss's quote. I just don't get the fuss about the on-camera thing. Of course it is going to be on camera they are taking part in a TV show. And both Molly and Melissa would have felt equally rejected when they were rejected.

I never liked Jason much but this rage is just over the top. Lots of men behave like him and in my experience men give very poor explanations of why they want out or love someone else - their explanation never makes sense.
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I was wondering how they took what happened and I'm not surprised.

Those two were so nice and generous to Jason...I don't blame them.
I wonder if Jason will end up leaving Seattle/Kirkland? I know he said he wouldn't ever leave because of Ty's mom, but the public ire for him isn't going to go away for a very long time. And for Molly to move there as well - just seems like adding fuel to the fire.

Although I could be completely wrong.
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Fleiss is such a sick jerk to compare Molly and Melissa amounts of turmoil and say they are the same. He doesn't know that he doesn't know anything about these people and probably doesn't care to either. Molly and Melissa are two completely different people. It is utterly sick that he took a girl who already had low self esteem when it came to men and they played up on that the entire season all so they could give the ultimate push over the edge on national tv. Now Melissa is out there somewhere questioning everything about herself all because MF wanted some ratings. Molly is the exact opposite. Never once did she wonder if anything is wrong with her or if she did anything wrong. She has high self esteem and the ATFR 1 and 2 fed into that even more. For MF to say that they were feeling the same way is ruthless and evil. Maybe next season MF can find someone unstable and see if he can get them to commit themselves to an instution before the end of the season. What a sick b*****d!

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Woops, you guys are absolutely right! I didn't pay close enough attention when she was walking in. Did you see it at all when she was on the couch?

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m225/nikicolecole/Jason%20season%20previews/3-4-200910-01-51AM.png
That really doesn't look like a girl to me who is about to get her heart broken! So, that would lead me to believe even more that Mel had NO idea!
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Fleiss is such a sick jerk to compare Molly and Melissa amounts of turmoil and say they are the same. He doesn't know that he doesn't know anything about these people and probably doesn't care to either. Molly and Melissa are two completely different people. It is utterly sick that he took a girl who already had low self esteem when it came to men and they played up on that the entire season all so they could give the ultimate push over the edge on national tv. Now Melissa is out there somewhere questioning everything about herself all because MF wanted some ratings. Molly is the exact opposite. Never once did she wonder if anything is wrong with her or if she did anything wrong. She has high self esteem and the ATFR 1 and 2 fed into that even more. For MF to say that they were feeling the same way is ruthless and evil. IMO
You don't know these people either. It is very wrong to assume that Molly's feelings are less valid than Melissa's.
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I wonder when and where those photos were taken for People. That last one looks like it's at Jason's house in NZ. It kinda looks like shots of the "happy couple" that they took in NZ for them to release later to the media, doesn't it? Hmmm.
no they were most likely taken somewhere in LA. they were taken either monday or tuesday.
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I just read the emails that were leaked to AH, and Melissa comes off as bitter and hurt and Jason comes off as a guy with no mind. So, basically no surprises there.
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"Bachelor" Jason Mesnick recalls "the good, the bad and the ugly"

Jason Mesnick — star of ABC's "The Bachelor" — tells The Seattle Times what went wrong with Melissa and what's going right with Molly. And Molly chimes in, too.

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The Jason Mesnick edition of "The Bachelor" may be over, but judging by the number of gigabytes on the Internet devoted to the controversial ending of the show, viewers still have plenty of unanswered questions.

The Seattle Times talked to Mesnick and his girlfriend Molly Malaney the morning after the final broadcast; excerpts are below. For a fuller treatment of this interview, pick up a Seattle Times on Sunday, March 8, or return then to The Seattle Times | Seattle Times Newspaper.

Q: Can we start from the beginning? Last time I talked to you in early December, you were engaged to Melissa. Did you ever expect to change your mind?

Jason: I would never have proposed if I thought I was going to change my mind. Retrospectively, if I had a couple a couple more months things would have been different. With the time constraints on the show, at the time I thought I was making the right decision.

Q: You spent the holidays with Melissa in L.A. Was Molly on your mind that whole time?

J: Initially, I tried to ignore it. Any time I would think about Molly I would be like, "Forget it." I made a decision, I'm going to get married to Melissa. But every day, I just remember thinking, OK first of all I feel really bad what I did to Molly. And then slowly, I would say, week after week it started building more and more. It was like, now I just don't feel bad, there's a piece of me that's still gone.

Q: Did you fall out of love with Melissa?


J: Melissa is that person I thought going into it I would end up with. I guess in a way she's similar to a lot of other girls I've dated in my life, which is part of the reason why I ended up picking her. It was just something I was so used to and something I always thought I wanted when realistically, there's probably a reason why my past relationships haven't worked out. What I really needed was somebody different and it was Molly.

Q: The decision to do it on television has been what everyone has been talking about. Did you actually tell Melissa beforehand?

J: The last conversation with Melissa and I was probably two days before we shot and it was, "Are you even going to wear your engagement ring because we're not together?" She definitely wasn't shellshocked. I knew everybody's going to judge because I did what I decided do on a TV show. At the time I felt like I didn't have a choice. [... ] Retrospectively, would it have been better if I just didn't show up? That was my alternative. Then would America look at me and say, "This guy's a chicken, he can't even say what's on his mind." It's a lose-lose. Retrospectively would I have not done it on TV? You know what? Yeah. I wouldn't have done it.

Q: How has your family been dealing with the public nature of it?

J: It's a little strange. I'm in L.A. right now, so I haven't been home during the finale. My family is very supportive. I even have messages from my old ex part of the family saying you did what you had to do and it was a really hard thing to do. [... ] It was what I decided to do, from the very beginning, the good the bad and the ugly, and every single week, I broke up with people. And I hated doing that then. But it's what I decided to do from the very beginning. So my family's been really supportive. More than anything, they want me to be happy.

Obviously I'm not happy with how people are perceiving me. I think people are judging most of all because this was on TV, but that's why everyone tuned in because it is on TV.

Q: What did your family say when you told them, "I proposed to Melissa but it's not working out and I want to be with Molly."

J: Two things. Who cares what people are going to think about you? What's the alternative, living a lie? I was never going to do that. They just said if she really makes you happy you gotta go through and do the right thing.

Q: Molly, what has it been like for you to watch this whole situation unfold and having to deal with this emotionally?


M: I would say I'm a pretty logical person. I understand that I came on a show called "The Bachelor," there's 25 girls, things are going to happen. I even knew when I left New Zealand, I wasn't mad at Jason, I knew he had to make a choice between two people and at that point he thought he made the choice for him. Everything's in the past and we've moved on from it.

Q: When did you make the decision to say "Yes, we're fully back on"? I assume it wasn't right at the taping of "After the Final Rose."


M: No, it wasn't right away. We definitely had to have some serious discussions after all that. I needed to understand what happened with him and Melissa. I would say it was a couple weeks after we got past everything and got to a good place.

Q: So you decided to move to Seattle? When?

M: Eventually. It's not a matter of if. I definitely will move out there, but I think we're just going to try to take it slow, move at our own pace and adjust to being a couple in the real world first.

Q: Would you both go through this experience again?

J: The only reason to do this is to find Molly. That's the only reason to do it.

M: I think the best advice I would give to anybody thinking about going through a situation like this is that you have to have incredibly tough skin. There's a lot of negativity that comes with doing something like this. But if you can get past that, which Jason and I have done a good job of doing, you have your family, your friends and Jason and I have each other. I can't regret anything I've done because I'm at a very good place in my life now.

Q: Molly, did you talk to your family when Jason came back around?


M: Oh yeah. I emphasized on the show how important my family is to me. I definitely wanted to keep them in the loop of what was going on. They were skeptical at first, they had the exact questions I had when I found out, but they love Jason and they see how happy he makes me so they're very supportive of all this.

Q: There've been a ton of rumors about the show for weeks now. How have you dealt with it?


J: The one true thing that came out was I did have this change of heart. Everybody else started speculating the behind the scenes stuff, which is 100 percent false. and that's where a lot of these stories came from, speculation, and that's just disappointing.

M: People just think we're this characters on a TV show, we have families and we have jobs. People say awful, awful things and they don't realize how that can affect our real lives. At the end of the day, we just need to focus on what's important and that's our friends and families, and we have each other and really that's all that matters. So we're just trying to move on from all that.
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