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Old 05-02-2008, 02:48 PM   #511
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I know it's been said in the past that the bachelor was warned whoever gets the FIR also gets a target put on her back....which may indicate he wouldn't want to do this to someone he knew he'd be taking to the end. Brad said he knew Deanna would be the one night 1 (if he chose her) and yet he gave it to Jenni. just my thoughts.
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I think Fleiss told him who not to give it to....i.e. Chels or Shayne
I agree with you.

I think there were 6 girls that Fleiss wanted to feature. I think he was in charge from day 1 and Matt did what he was told with most of the 6 girls.

Especially if he had to be told to keep Shayne at three different times, which is what the rumors were.

I have alway been told there is at least a small seed of truth in every rumor.
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Maybe Matt is good enough of an actor to pull off the body language with Amanda. The more I think about it the more convinced I am that Fleiss told him exactly how to play Amanda. He needed her to stay for several reasons. I think that is why Matt looked so hurt when she called him a douchebag. I think maybe that is the only time there was real emotion with her from him. That really hurt him but, I think he deserved it. I think that was the first time he realized how far he had gone and felt bad.
Oooh, you're good! I saw chemistry between them, but there was something off about it to the point where I expected her to reject him. Since that proved not to be the case, I'll consider most alternative explanations. And this one works as much as any of them do.
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I think he wanted to use her Meeps and the only way to do that was to bring as close to the end as possible.
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Could be, but did you notice how abruptly Fleiss dropped the meeps storyline? He then went with the All American Girl storyline. Then the prankster storyline. What was the exact wording of the promo that the prank would lead to a big shocker? Maybe he thought different storylines would appeal to different demographics so he could shock more people when she left at F3. Tricks, tricks, and more tricks. And subtrifuge.
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Except that at the WTA she tells him that she thought they were going to get engaged. Why would she think that?
Maybe because she was led to believe that from the production? Maybe because she is ready to get married and wanted to believe it? In that article that Kasha mentioned she does say she was shocked and angry but after sleeping on it she understood why he did not give her a rose.
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Could be, but did you notice how abruptly Fleiss dropped the meeps storyline? He then went with the All American Girl storyline. Then the prankster storyline. What was the exact wording of the promo that the prank would lead to a big shocker? Maybe he thought different storylines would appeal to different demographics so he could shock more people when she left at F3. Tricks, tricks, and more tricks. And subtrifuge.
This makes sense also....
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Maybe because she was led to believe that from the production? Maybe because she is ready to get married and wanted to believe it? In that article that Kasha mentioned she does say she was shocked and angry but after sleeping on it she understood why he did not give her a rose.
and from what she said on Ellen, he did say things that led her to believe she would be safe that RC. We know about the picture comment because she said it, but what else did he say to her to keep her hopes up?? That we'll never know. But a woman doesn't think she's getting a proposal without appropriate feedback from the gent.
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Except that at the WTA she tells him that she thought they were going to get engaged. Why would she think that?
I expect they get caught up in the premise of The Bachelor, that he will select among them his future wife. If 25 girls were to go to a party, they would not assume that the male host would pick one of them to marry.
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Oooh, you're good! I saw chemistry between them, but there was something off about it to the point where I expected her to reject him. Since that proved not to be the case, I'll consider most alternative explanations. And this one works as much as any of them do.
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Maybe because she was led to believe that from the production? Maybe because she is ready to get married and wanted to believe it? In that article that Kasha mentioned she does say she was shocked and angry but after sleeping on it she understood why he did not give her a rose.
That's certainly possible.
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