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    Quote Originally Posted by paborn123;3004325;
    You're probably right. However you either know the definition or your don't. It isn't up to interpretation and it is not subjective like calling balls and strikes.
    It's not unlike Matt, when he said Shayne was a great lover or good or whatever. My dictionary has lover as "having a sexual or romantic relationship with some one often outside of marriage". Perhaps Matt has a better command of the English language than we Americans and in this context meant a great lover in a romantic relationship. I am not quite so quick to jump to a conclusion especially in this instance where he isn't familiar with our expressions nor ours with his.
    Sorry my response was to the pornographic post.. some call it porn some don't .. that's where my morals come in.. I guess I'm a prude.. because the spread in GGW to me is pornographic.. jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlekeeper;3004353;
    Sorry my response was to the pornographic post.. some call it porn some don't .. that's where my morals come in.. I guess I'm a prude.. because the spread in GGW to me is pornographic.. jmo
    The point of the magazine is for adolescent/college males to stash it in special places for special purposes. Enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlccaz;3004432;
    The point of the magazine is for adolescent/college males to stash it in special places for special purposes. Enough said.
    I don't think it stops at adolescence

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    If Matt and Shayne get married any time soon--it would be just another hasty Lamas wedding. Matt looks tired because he probably is. Living a lifestyle not suited for you will do that....totally exhausting. Matt and Shayne are no Trista and Ryan, although their personalities somewhat match. The difference is is that Ryan willingly took a backseat to Trista, allowing her to call the shots-the televised wedding being one of them. At least Trista was willing to settle down, giving up whatever aspirations she may have had. Shayne seems to be a long way from that. So other than the deep infatuation, what really do they have in common? I predict that as soon as Matt comes to his senses, it will be over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlekeeper;3004353;
    Sorry my response was to the pornographic post.. some call it porn some don't .. that's where my morals come in.. I guess I'm a prude.. because the spread in GGW to me is pornographic.. jmo
    I don't think it's pornographic, but GGW is definitely the cheapest kind of trash, just one rung above porn. The pics themselves are not really that bad, the two I've seen at least aren't, it's just where they're published that makes them into complete sleaze. If they were in Maxim, like Trista's were, or even Playboy, it wouldn't be such an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso;3004461;
    If Matt and Shayne get married any time soon--it would be just another hasty Lamas wedding. Matt looks tired because he probably is. Living a lifestyle not suited for you will do that....totally exhausting. Matt and Shayne are no Trista and Ryan, although their personalities somewhat match. The difference is is that Ryan willingly took a backseat to Trista, allowing her to call the shots-the televised wedding being one of them. At least Trista was willing to settle down, giving up whatever aspirations she may have had. Shayne seems to be a long way from that. So other than the deep infatuation, what really do they have in common? I predict that as soon as Matt comes to his senses, it will be over.
    But, see, I think Matt is absolutely willing to take a back seat and let Shayne shine. I think he truly loves her and seeing her in her element probably only makes him love her more. I don't think there is a need for Shayne to take the back seat because I think Matt is ready and willing to for her.

    He flew here numerous times to be with her... not because he had to, but because he wanted to be with her.

    I don't think that Shayne has to mimick Trista's lifestyle to have a successful life with Matt. I think that both her and Matt have to accept each other and what they bring to the table, and I do believe that they do. That is why I think they will last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso;3004461;
    If Matt and Shayne get married any time soon--it would be just another hasty Lamas wedding. Matt looks tired because he probably is. Living a lifestyle not suited for you will do that....totally exhausting. Matt and Shayne are no Trista and Ryan, although their personalities somewhat match. The difference is is that Ryan willingly took a backseat to Trista, allowing her to call the shots-the televised wedding being one of them. At least Trista was willing to settle down, giving up whatever aspirations she may have had. Shayne seems to be a long way from that. So other than the deep infatuation, what really do they have in common? I predict that as soon as Matt comes to his senses, it will be over.
    You know it's funny before the outcome of the season, a lot of people were posting that Shayne would never ever want to be with Matt, now I am reading that, Matt will come to his senses and dump Shayne....I do like Matt/Shayne but if they don't work out, they are not the first bachelor couple not to make it, but we are due to have one of the couples make it so best of luck to Matt/Shayne......

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    JMO, but I think porn is in the eye of the beholder, pretty much like everything else. Having said that, I would be very worried about my daughter if she were posing for a picture like that. But then, I would be concerned about what I saw in the edit of most of those on the show. I try not to judge; I'm too imperfect myself. I'd like to believe that mistakes made create learning and growth. That's what I wish for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Sayin;3004473;
    I think that both her and Matt have to accept each other and what they bring to the table.
    ITA with this part of your post. If they do, they'll have a chance for success. I wish them the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFroggy;3004471;
    I don't think it's pornographic, but GGW is definitely the cheapest kind of trash, just one rung above porn. The pics themselves are not really that bad, the two I've seen at least aren't, it's just where they're published that makes them into complete sleaze. If they were in Maxim, like Trista's were, or even Playboy, it wouldn't be such an issue.
    You know I have been hearing that it wouldn't be a problem if they were in this magazine or that magazine, but I really don't think that is the issue with this, I personally feel JMHO, it's Shayne that is the problem, every thing she has done on the bachelor to post bachelor has been trashed to high heaven....If Shayne would have been on a bridal magazine I think we still would have been having this debate.....

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    Re: Thoughts & Comments in General #3 **SPOILERS** - Bachelor 12

    Quote Originally Posted by jlccaz;3004127;
    She isn't going through anything she doesn't want and long for -- she wants to be a Celebrity, above all, even if she doesn't fully recognize that in herself.

    Matt on the other hand I suspect thought he wanted the public limelight, and now looks like he'd rather be anywhere else in the world. Walking Shayne's little dog in the park? Grocery Shopping? Shayne has some Us Weekly notion of life as a Famous Couple.

    He had a career track, at least he has a clue. Matt should enroll in the best MBA program here or in UK that will accept him, and bit fond farewell to Hollywood. He may like to crack funny jokes at others' expense, but he is many, many steps away from the talk show host career he thinks he craves. He's going to lose his soul if he stays in Hollywood as Shayne's arm candy. It's a joke! Man Up, Matt, it's not too late!

    Yeah, right now Matt is looking like just another accessory for Shayne. Let's see, she now has her top 6 list: cars, watches, shoes, sunglasses, handbags, and British fiances.

    I mean, Matt is going to have to do something productive w/his life besides go grocery shopping w/Shayne and help her walk her dog. A few months ago he was a successful banker from England, now he is just in limbo. Plus, I don't know how he (or Shayne for that matter) are going to find steady income by living a month in LA, a month in London, a month in NY. I know a lot of Hollywood actors and actresses live like that, but they are very successful and have made millions doing what they do, so that is why they have multiple homes around the world.

    I don't know, I guess it is just going to be interesting sitting back and seeing how all of this works out.

    ETA: I must have missed something, when did Shayne Lamas become Shayne Dahl Lamas?
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