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    The Bachelor : Only Socially Dysfunctional Males Need Apply

    Alas, sweet Amanda Rantuccio was sent home by the most recent front man for Fleiss’ farce. Who is Matt Grant, and why was he cast? That is an interesting question. Was it the production staff, so paranoid about knowledge of Grant’s past acting foray, made sure that any one of the 25 who had knowledge was set for immediate elimination? The secret word is “Firedrake”. And, Fleiss isn’t Groucho Marx. Heaven forbid that folks would suspect they’d hire a wanna-be actor. Why, he is an honorable “investment banker’. People do trust him so. A future Warren Buffet if you ask me! They say they want to increase viewers. They say that there was a true romance. They always say those things.

    The previous occupant of the pilot’s chair kept saying how “happy” he was with the outcome, and that he, “could be married right now.” In truth, I think that he’s happy to be back with mama. There was such flack from that one, one of the two girls that the Austin bar owner dissed, Atlanta firecracker DeAnna Pappas has her own gig. She’s a cool lady. I wish her luck, but my good wishes could be drown in a plethora of Fleissinization for good TV. DeAnna is the first Bachelorette since Jen Shafty “Dec’d” good guy Jerry Ferris. I understand that for awhile Jerry dated Jehan from the Travis series, so at least he was able to spend time with a good woman, and get the bad taste out of his mouth of being Shafted. But as to the current situation, I have to ask, what are they going to do now after they see the reaction? Beg Amanda to come as the Bachelorette too?

    I for one have no interest in seeing the outcome, because I think it was probably set up. If anyone really believes he will choose Chelsea Wanstrath, contact me by Email, because I have a great deal on the Vincent Thomas bridge which runs over the LA harbor. It’s a nice shade of green & everything. A real steal . I will sell it cheaper than the Santa Monica Ferris Wheel went for on Ebay! I personally believe that Fleiss, having caught so much flack about the last outcome, bought some insurance and forced an outcome this time. It will backfire, because he made a mistake of editing a real participant to be ridiculously popular.

    In that vein, I also listened to an interview on a 99.7 FM Grant gave this morning (April 28) , and he made this very telling remark. “I don’t think it would be cute if I had to live with them (meeps) 24/7”. As far as I have heard, they are not constant, occur at specific times of stress. How many meeps have we heard in the past two or three episodes? So the sarcastic quip is quite out of line. If they were a problem, he shouldn’t have kept her this long. But he did. I have come to give them an analogy to someone having a mild case of asthma. You live with and deal with that kind of thing. If you truly care about a person, an occasional meep is a non-issue. His answer was SHALLOW. But, Amanda’s reference to him on her exit. Kapow! So now we know why he may have said what he said… Poor baby had his feelings hurt by being called an interesting name…. Amanda is far too good for him…

    Just look at the past. I have already touched on the previous series. Before that we had Andy Baldwin. We must separate his service to the country, which is honorable and heroic, and his less than stellar personal behavior with women. Tessa Horst and Bevin Powers really dodged a bullet…. At the time, I favored Bevin, and I thought that the choice of Tessa was insincere, but I never realized how insincere. His finagelling and philandering will become legend. First there was this “Miss Iran”, then he is seen cavorting with the ex-wife of a billionaire. Now, that takes talent.

    Then there is perhaps my favorite doophus Travis “Don’t Be That Girl” Stork. Without medical training it is doubtful if he would have a proper knowledge of the female anatomy to do anything with a girl in an intimate moment. How could he let go of the likes of Jehan Huleisy and Kristen Morse? Great ladies both, and who are not only personally, but mentally and socially far above anything the Stork would understand. And then, what about Moana Dixon?

    How did she get to F2? I think he did have ruminations of some sort of physical attraction, but in the end he chose someone who would be no challenge. Moana had a quick wit, and would have run circles around that over-book-learned buffoon. He took the easy way out. Then, he dumped Sarah Stone immediately.

    Who would have thought that in the recent series that Lorenzo Borgheze would be a shining light. He approached the whole thing with a camp humor. Picked someone in the end from two, where people generally liked them both. Of course the thing didn’t last, but that was probably more due to the immaturity and infidelity of the F1, Jennifer Wilson, with an ex-boyfriend. Later on he was supposedly seeing Sadie Murray, his F2. Well, he did say he made his final decision two hours prior to the taping. It is obvious he did like them both. And I am sure Sadie doesn’t run around 50 times a day saying that she is “Saving her self for marriage”. That was more mean and gratuitous editing.

    So in the end, Grant is nothing more than the typical socially dysfunctional male Fleiss hires for these things. I hope there is a huge backlash, and now that we see what nonsense this all is, the show will be buried for good.

    There is too much in terms of body language, etc. for me to say that under normal and honest situations, without a hired insurance policy, that Matt would have picked Amanda. I think the poster who suggested he developed feelings for Amanda but had to pick Shayne, may have been onto something. Even reports of him getting upset at questions by the “last one released” (Amanda). Why did he get upset? That is telling. But, that is just my opinion.

    Although I like DeAnna Pappas, I have no more interest in watching at this time... Though I may be seen to lurk here and there... We all must remember that it’s only a TV show, and this is supposed to be entertaining and fun, even if your favorite does not get the last rose. But it isn't fun anymore. And, I have more important things to do.

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    Re: The Bachelor : Only Socially Dysfunctional Males Need Apply

    I read your post at JU and I just read it again and I agree with so many things! LOVED it!

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    Socially retarded immature men are the only ones Fleiss will choose to be the Bachelor. (Kindred spirits Mikey?)

    While I agree with a lot of what you have said, I disagree about Amanda. I don't think there was much of anything there. Since the winery date, it's been Shayne. The only tender moments, and real conversations were with her. Now as to whether she was hired to play the F1, was hired and Matt happened to fall for her, or just maybe she was there at the right place, at the right time. We've been speculating on that since mid-Feburary.
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    Really what kind of man would go on this show unless he is looking for fame/career and they have all (just about) had some type of career in tv from it, I have to give credit to Brad that he did not go that route, guess he should have picked a girl if wanted that, but he still has bachelor photos all over his chuggin monkey website, so he capitalized on his fleeting fame.

    Matt has been one of the "worst" in the leading the girls on.

    He blatantly lead Robin on and certainly said things to Noelle that he should not have, including to her family, and no he did not have to do that. And the smooching with everyone soooo much. I suspect that is because in the end he does not have to worry about his beloved watching it because, well she is an actor and understands on screen kisses don't mean anything...

    The Chelsea underwear strip then we know she climbed on top of him later, ewwww come on this used to be better than Rock of Love, which actually looks a bit more legit now.

    Its a trend though, the winner on ROL is also an actress and fine with Bret's womanizing ways and he says, yeah it was great, but find love on a tv show HAH, and yet that was the premise of his show, but at least he is a bit more honest.

    I can't believe Matt dissed Amanda for her meeps how classless and yes she was allowed to be a bit classless on her exit, good for her.

    Thanks for this thread, great idea!!!

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    Great post!

    I think Matt goes a step beyond the worst of the worst for me. As bizbachfan said, he was one of the worst in terms of leading the girls on - last night alone, I couldn't help but think if Chelsea had seen what we've seen, would she have put on that little show? I don't think so. I felt better when I thought Amanda and Chelsea were on to the sham and didn't let themselves get too invested, but I think we can clearly now say that Amanda was blindsided and Chelsea will be too.

    Matt kissed as many girls as he possibly could - everyone but Kelly, right? He was very free with the 'honey's and physical touching of all of the girls, and yet supposedly he was a 'goner' after the first night? Then he talked negatively toward several of the girls and gave Amanda basically the same treatment he gave Robin - all he offered as explanation was that 'he meant everything he said' which was his way of saying 'I am totally sincere and if you read too much into it, that's you're problem.' What a tool! Oh, yeah, what a DB!

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    I guess you can call him a lothario of the highest order. Simply put a poor excuse for a man.

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    I tend to be most opinionated about the most recent bachelors, so I'm not going to say Matt's any better or worse than the rest of the lot. But there's something about the kind of guys who agree to that role ... eventually time makes me more forgiving of their foibles. But who ever thought I'd put that dud, Jesse Palmer, in my top 3? Which I do now. I rank them: Byron, Andrew F, Jesse, and Travis, then the rest of the lot sort of mushed together as clowns.
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    Fleiss thought we would be happy with this show? Only thing I can assume is he found a bachelor who would promise not only to pick a girl, but propose and be ready to wed on the spot, perhaps he introduced him to shayne ahead of time to make sure she would do

    Seriously Matt makes Brad look good. Though Brad obviously should not have told Deanna "tmrw would be a good day" at least he did not carry on the charade for Fleiss' sake.

    Matt has jumped in wholeheartedly kissing every girl, making out with most of them, touching them all over,etc.

    he kisses and lets them go a moment later

    what a DB!!!

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    The only way I could see the show redeeming itself is if Matt chooses Chelsea. I know Shayne fans will disagree, but to many, it will look like a set-up. Even still, I give the "relationship" 6 months or less.
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    I don't see Matt as a DB in the slightest. So he didn't choose Amanda, so what. He didn't feel it with her--that was incredibly obvious---i didn't see anything between them the whole time--i think he liked her fine, but i don't think he ever had strong feelings for her. He has been falling for shayne since day 1--but, i don't think people want to admit it, because they all just really liked amanda. A lot of people have never been able to see a real strong connection with amanda, because there wasn't one. That doesn't make matt a horrible person--just because he didn't fall for her he is horrible? I don't get it. I feel bad for matt because he's doing what he came on the show to do--find true love, and because he didn't find true love with the fan favorite he's being crucified. Ridiculous. He and Shayne have had a very strong connection from day 1---it has been so obvious that he is falling so hard for her, and she for him. No setup, just real feelings developing--it's been shown from the beginning--and I"m sorry but Matt would not be able to act that well throughout the entire series. He's smitten--so is shayne--it's very very obvious

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