Part 2: "Spoilers & Screencap Analysis ONLY" **SPOILERS** - Bachelor 12

[WrigleyDogA2]

Originally Posted by heatheshells10

Okay, so there was a discussion going on over in the Amanda thread, but I wanted to ask a question here because I think it fits on this thread. We have screencap evidence of Shayne and Chelsea both at the Hilton. Shayne and Chelsea in PIs and Chelsea and Matt on the couch. There is information from an inside source that Amanda also stays at the Hilton. Therefore, it would be logical that all of the F3 stay at the Hilton. It says in the media description that the girls go back to Matt's fantasy suite for the fantasy suite dates. I thought we were told that Matt would be staying at the Great House. Why then is Matt in what is most likely Chelsea's suite at the Hilton in the couch screencap? Is this from an LCD? I don't think I am wording this right, but I'm just confused.

In re to the bolded above: isn't it possible that the couch sc are Matt's fantasy suite and that they do go back to his place. The room appears to be decorated the way a fantasy suite is decorated and the champagne is there. I think this is more likely than it being Chelsea's room. I think the girls just get regular, single rooms.

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[twinnies]

It seems to me that the SCs of what many believe to be the F2 of Chelsea and Shayne are similar to the big debate over the B10 SCs of the blond hugging and the helicopter pic. The big question was was the blonde Danielle or Bevin since it was obvious Tessa was on the horse!

Now we obviously have Shayne and the question is Chelsea or Amanda-the hair darkened to make it appear it is Amanda vs it just really looks like Amanda.

Just enough to make people question it but really quite plain to see.

I just liked Amanda from out of the limo and the sparkle in both their eyes but we are seeing nothing of substance with them and nothing from HIM about HER! I notice their eye contact (which some are more comfortable with than others) and what seems to be a just a really high level of comfort and compatability. Perhaps that is all it is.

The conversation with Chelsea seemed pretty real to me although I notice she has a really hard time looking at him when she speaks.

I think the prize winning SC is the one with the "look" and that can't be faked. We assume it is Amanda -is it just becaues of its placement with her dancing? Is it worth discussing further?

[beeleever]

Originally Posted by WrigleyDogA2

In re to the bolded above: isn't it possible that the couch sc are Matt's fantasy suite and that they do go back to his place. The room appears to be decorated the way a fantasy suite is decorated and the champagne is there. I think this is more likely than it being Chelsea's room. I think the girls just get regular, single rooms.

Okay, so I can totally see Shayne saying in her cute way, "Hello...I am staying in a regular single room for you, Matt."

[girlsmom]

Originally Posted by sluether28

If Amanda goes home at F3 why are there no kissing SC? There have been SC of Ashlee and Robin kissing Matt before they leave so why not Amanda?

This is an excellent point sleuther! The SCs are all about deception, so IF Amanda went home after F3 I would absolutely agree that we'd get the kissing screencap. It makes you go hmmmmm.
This edit is so wild with Shayne in the mix, but the edit is always meant to be deceptive. I have no idea whom Matt picks, however TWO things are clear to me: 1. Shayne is the star and will therefore ALWAYS be shown ten times as much as others. 2. It makes no sense to withold supposed evidence that Amanda stays IF she does in fact go after F3. (Everything is meant to deceive, with the possible exception of Shayne's edit.)

[momsunshine]

Originally Posted by WrigleyDogA2

In re to the bolded above: isn't it possible that the couch sc are Matt's fantasy suite and that they do go back to his place. The room appears to be decorated the way a fantasy suite is decorated and the champagne is there. I think this is more likely than it being Chelsea's room. I think the girls just get regular, single rooms.

I wonder if it is Chelsea's room and she asked him to stay there. She already went to his room once, maybe she turns the tables on him?

[momsunshine]

Originally Posted by girlsmom

This is an excellent point sleuther! The SCs are all about deception, so IF Amanda went home after F3 I would absolutely agree that we'd get the kissing screencap. It makes you go hmmmmm.
This edit is so wild with Shayne in the mix, but the edit is always meant to be deceptive. I have no idea whom Matt picks, however TWO things are clear to me: 1. Shayne is the star and will therefore ALWAYS be shown ten times as much as others. 2. It makes no sense to withold supposed evidence that Amanda stays IF she does in fact go after F3. (Everything is meant to deceive, with the possible exception of Shayne's edit.)

I like Amanda, but I wonder if her "meeps" have effected what is shown about her. maybe she meeps when they kiss.

[fan*addict]

Originally Posted by momsunshine

I like Amanda, but I wonder if her "meeps" have effected what is shown about her. maybe she meeps when they kiss.

Doubtful...I think that they ae actually editing in some of those "meeps"

[Ryvetted]

Originally Posted by twinnies

It seems to me that the SCs of what many believe to be the F2 of Chelsea and Shayne are similar to the big debate over the B10 SCs of the blond hugging and the helicopter pic. The big question was was the blonde Danielle or Bevin since it was obvious Tessa was on the horse!

Now we obviously have Shayne and the question is Chelsea or Amanda-the hair darkened to make it appear it is Amanda vs it just really looks like Amanda.

Just enough to make people question it but really quite plain to see.

I just liked Amanda from out of the limo and the sparkle in both their eyes but we are seeing nothing of substance with them and nothing from HIM about HER! I notice their eye contact (which some are more comfortable with than others) and what seems to be a just a really high level of comfort and compatability. Perhaps that is all it is.

The conversation with Chelsea seemed pretty real to me although I notice she has a really hard time looking at him when she speaks.

I think the prize winning SC is the one with the "look" and that can't be faked. We assume it is Amanda -is it just becaues of its placement with her dancing? Is it worth discussing further?

Plus, the fact that the "look" picture looks to be at night/the same time as the dancing pic...but that can be deceptive too.

[kelad9]

Just had a thought and well for me, the SC's support both Amanda and Chelsea at being in the F2 if the FRC is being taken place at the Hilton.. I'm perplexed at how 1st couch girl laying on top of Matt could be Chelsea given her phobia of PDA.... The 2nd picture looks more like Chelsea and that would be a position she'd be more comfortable with than say the 1st one which leads me to think 1st pic is Amanda because I can totally see Amanda laying on top of Matt, and both pics look like it's at the Hilton where final rose ceremony is at,therefore we have our final 2- Amanda and Chelsea. There are none of Shayne at the Hilton though there's that one of her in the Great house, I have a feeling the pic of Matt and Shayne is the same day as the FD in Barbados and not the F2 dates IMO. What do you guys think?

[momsunshine]

I think the couch person is Amanda, Chelsea has muscular arms compared to Amanda.