Part 2: "Spoilers & Screencap Analysis ONLY" **SPOILERS** - Bachelor 12

[maggiec07]

Originally Posted by pajamasam

Very observant Satorus. I remember that Kelly Jo said they drove her around for a long time. She wouldnt cry and then they finally brought up her deceased grandfather. Yeah, they'll do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to get the tears.

Also, during Amanda's interview in the car you see out of the back window street lights, but when the scene flashes to an outshide shot, its the narrow, winding, local road with no street lights in sight! Sad that they keep the girls in the cars so long just to get some drama shots. sigh

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[n4692u]

Originally Posted by mindy384

I'm not so sure about the sunset/dress sc being after the frc either! But the dress does look like the one she is looking at in the mirror (unless that yellow one we saw in the preview is longer, (which it could be!)) and matt is wearing a tux (and it is obviously barbados and why else would he be at the frc site in a tux?)

I'm very confused.

I'm saying this again and I have posted it on this site before. Someone on here during the past week or so said it looked like two FRC. I believe they are right and there are TWO FRC and when I saw the previews at the end of Monday nights show, I am almost positve about that. I couldn't believe what Chelsea was wearing, a long white dress. I believe Matt & Chelsea went back later, after the original FRC, and got married there. Those who have said, "why is Matt wearing a tux" or "the stand didn't have white on it during the FRC", but we see it with the hands now. Hey, the decorations? Yea gals, I think we are going to have ourselves a wedding!!! That white bracelet would certainly go nicely with a wedding dress.

That is the only thing I can think of that would bring us all back into the "Bachelor Franchise" as CH has said this finale would do.

Note: Can't wait to see Amanda on Ellen tomorrow.

[cape]

I can't believe I am posting this...b/c I REALLY think the sunset girl is Shayne... but bear with me here...

I am trying to decide if this screencap of Chelsea is flipped...



we see her putting on both shoes and if you notice - she holds her hands the same on both sides - just reversing them - so there is no indication there if it is left or right...

IF she is in their Fantasy suite...the photo is not flipped...but if she is in another room - then it could be...

what is a red flag to me that it MIGHT be flipped is the book...notice that it is backwards....if you were placing a book as a prop - wouldn't you place it in the correct position? Wouldn't a book placed correctly have a spine on the left - like in this flipped picture?

If this is flipped - then Chelsea has a bracelet on her left arm...

which brings me to my next point...

Chelsea is not flipped in her FRC picture...
she has a very distinct mole on her right arm and it is not seen in this shot...she does have a lighter mole on her left arm which I think you can see in the pic but it would be better to have an HD shot to be sure...I see it on my tv better


Shayne has a mole on her right upper lip - well just above the lip - I can't find a good cap of it...anyway - you can see it in the shot of Shayne so she is not flipped either...again hd caps would work better to prove the point...


also shots of the FRC location have always indicated the girl to the right would have water as her backdrop while the girl to the left would have greenery...which is exactly what we see with Shayne and Chelsea here -

based on the FRC location and sun - I believe the photos of Matt proposing to the F1 are flipped and it is the girl on the right who is getting the proposal...which appears to be Chelsea

so that is what I see in the screencaps...
but I think Shayne would be the girl most likely to wear the multiple bracelets...
and I think it is Shayne in the sunset photo...

I thought this was a slam dunk but now I think I might have to see more screencaps before I really decide...

[cape]

The picture of the hands that appear to match Chelsea do have a ring box in them...which would be cruel and unusual to have the box out for F2...plus they don't want the F1 to see the box...

Funny that you said you don't care who F1 is...but for some reason I can't stop myself!!

[catn3d]

Originally Posted by cape

I can't believe I am posting this...b/c I REALLY think the sunset girl is Shayne... but bear with me here...

I am trying to decide if this screencap of Chelsea is flipped...



we see her putting on both shoes and if you notice - she holds her hands the same on both sides - just reversing them - so there is no indication there if it is left or right...

IF she is in their Fantasy suite...the photo is not flipped...but if she is in another room - then it could be...

what is a red flag to me that it MIGHT be flipped is the book...notice that it is backwards....if you were placing a book as a prop - wouldn't you place it in the correct position? Wouldn't a book placed correctly have a spine on the left - like in this flipped picture?

If this is flipped - then Chelsea has a bracelet on her left arm...

which brings me to my next point...

Chelsea is not flipped in her FRC picture...
she has a very distinct mole on her right arm and it is not seen in this shot...she does have a lighter mole on her left arm which I think you can see in the pic but it would be better to have an HD shot to be sure...I see it on my tv better


Shayne has a mole on her right upper lip - well just above the lip - I can't find a good cap of it...anyway - you can see it in the shot of Shayne so she is not flipped either...again hd caps would work better to prove the point...


also shots of the FRC location have always indicated the girl to the right would have water as her backdrop while the girl to the left would have greenery...which is exactly what we see with Shayne and Chelsea here -

based on the FRC location and sun - I believe the photos of Matt proposing to the F1 are flipped and it is the girl on the right who is getting the proposal...which appears to be Chelsea

so that is what I see in the screencaps...
but I think Shayne would be the girl most likely to wear the multiple bracelets...
and I think it is Shayne in the sunset photo...

I thought this was a slam dunk but now I think I might have to see more screencaps before I really decide...

Best I could do:

[cape]

Thanks Cat! It doesn't help on Chelsea but it does show that Shayne is not flipped she is on the left....

[onlyme]

Originally Posted by cape

The picture of the hands that appear to match Chelsea do have a ring box in them...which would be cruel and unusual to have the box out for F2...plus they don't want the F1 to see the box...

Funny that you said you don't care who F1 is...but for some reason I can't stop myself!!

Sorry Cape..I think you replied to my message that I deleted. I apologize. at least you got to read it. I deleted because I thought I had responded to the wrong post and would confuse everyone. I guess you did understand

I thought for sure I saw the SC of the hand pic in your post but then it disappeared. I guess I should be in bed. I have totally confused myself. No I really don't care about F1 since it looks like it is Shayne, BUT now you have me thinking...like I said, please don't make me go there...

[n4692u]

Originally Posted by n4692u

I'm saying this again and I have posted it on this site before. Someone on here during the past week or so said it looked like two FRC. I believe they are right and there are TWO FRC and when I saw the previews at the end of Monday nights show, I am almost positve about that. I couldn't believe what Chelsea was wearing, a long white dress. I believe Matt & Chelsea went back later, after the original FRC, and got married there. Those who have said, "why is Matt wearing a tux" or "the stand didn't have white on it during the FRC", but we see it with the hands now. Hey, the decorations? Yea gals, I think we are going to have ourselves a wedding!!! That white bracelet would certainly go nicely with a wedding dress.

That is the only thing I can think of that would bring us all back into the "Bachelor Franchise" as CH has said this finale would do.

Note: Can't wait to see Amanda on Ellen tomorrow.

ANOTHER important point that supports my theory. In the sc, find me ONE sc or in the preview that shows Matt w/Shayne in that black tux at the FRC. It shows her looking up at him, but you can't see one speck of him, because he didn't have on a black tux when he rejected her at the original FRC. You PLAINLY see him in that black tux laughing w/Chelsea in her "white dress". In the climate in Barbados, I don't think you would wear a black suit for the FRC, you would probably wear a tan or grey.

Forget the sunset sc because Fleiss just had Chelsea change her white dress for a short yellowish one and took some photos to fool US!

We'll just have to wait a couple of weeks to see if I'm right. Maybe that's why Matt, when asked if they were going to have kids in a couple years, he said something like "she might be pregnant now, you never know", or something to that effect. Why would he even say something like that in jest about someone he wasn't married to?

As a matter of fact, we probably won't even get to see him reject & humiliate Shayne. I mean, we couldn't actually see Shayne not gettin her man, she's has a famous dad. (I really do think Shayne's sweet & I like her) I think we will be just shocked with the wedding with Chel's dad & everything at the end! CH says in the preview "it is the most romantic love story EVER".

In those sc & previews after the HTD, when he is looking up at her & opens up the ring box, his face is just radiant and you know he is in love. That was at the 2nd FRC. I truly believe what I am saying, even though it would be just a short period of time. London & California is a long way apat and maybe they figured they were in love and just went for it. We'll see!

[cape]

Originally Posted by onlyme

Sorry Cape..I think you replied to my message that I deleted. I apologize. at least you got to read it. I deleted because I thought I had responded to the wrong post and would confuse everyone. I guess you did understand

I thought for sure I saw the SC of the hand pic in your post but then it disappeared. I guess I should be in bed. I have totally confused myself. No I really don't care about F1 since it looks like it is Shayne, BUT now you have me thinking...like I said, please don't make me go there...

the wrong picture posted and I changed it but it was so quick that it doesn't even show I edited my post...I figured you saw it so that is why I understood!!

sorry to confuse you so late at night!

How do you delete a post?

[onlyme]

Originally Posted by cape

Thanks Cat! It doesn't help on Chelsea but it does show that Shayne is not flipped she is on the left....

i would say they aren't flipped either. You gone and done it...made me think about the FRC. Something has been bugging me since the first hand pics came out. I don't know how to bring the pics here ...sorry. I have always felt those hand shots were of F2 because the rose it pointing toward Matt and away from the girl (the bud end). The rose is in an awkward position. But then again we see the ring box, so it has to be F1, right. We do know Matt picks up the rose at some point. Maybe when he set it back down he changed the way it was lying. (laying..never could get that right). Oh h#ll, I don't know what I think anymore.