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Old 04-26-2008, 06:42 PM   #611
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Thanks for remembering those. Those were not really screencaps though, were they? Those were more like press release pictures. The actual screen caps from previews is what I was referring to. I don't think the screencaps have ever been photoshopped. Right?
We have heard and seen proof though that Fleiss did photoshop in foilage for the shot of Shayne and Matt walking on the beach. So how can we say that Fleiss would never photoshop the important SCs when he already has?
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We have heard and seen proof though that Fleiss did photoshop in foilage for the shot of Shayne and Matt walking on the beach. So how can we say that Fleiss would never photoshop the important SCs when he already has?

We have seen proof? Can you post these tampered photos?
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We have heard and seen proof though that Fleiss did photoshop in foilage for the shot of Shayne and Matt walking on the beach. So how can we say that Fleiss would never photoshop the important SCs when he already has?

Difference between these: in the beach shot he's "cleaning up" the debris for the F1. In the FRC he wants it crystal clear who F1 is--not photoshopped. Both with same inevitable goal.
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We were shown actual photos of the same stretch of beach that they are walking on, taken close to the time of the show being filmed. The reason that the beach was not as lush is because of erosion due to weather and time. All of that has been discussed before. I can not remember exactly where but we did have some one that lives in Barbados say that yes in fact Fleiss had to photoshop in more foilage because it does not look like what we were shown anymore.
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Difference between these: in the beach shot he's "cleaning up" the debris for the F1. In the FRC he wants it crystal clear who F1 is--not photoshopped.
Sorry but I disagree. The only time Fleiss wants it to be crystal clear who F1 is is at the time of airing for the FRC. He always wants us to guess who the F1 is before it actually airs.
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We were shown actual photos of the same stretch of beach that they are walking on, taken close to the time of the show being filmed. The reason that the beach was not as lush is because of erosion due to weather and time. All of that has been discussed before. I can not remember exactly where but we did have some one that lives in Barbados say that yes in fact Fleiss had to photoshop in more foilage because it does not look like what we were shown anymore.

Are you referring to Page 16, Post 153 of the screencap thread?
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Sorry but I disagree. The only time Fleiss wants it to be crystal clear who F1 is is at the time of airing for the FRC. He always wants us to guess who the F1 is before it actually airs.
Exactly ..he usually gives un enough to make plausible cases..but it is not until they step out of the limo that we are either jubilant or remorseful
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Sorry but I disagree. The only time Fleiss wants it to be crystal clear who F1 is is at the time of airing for the FRC. He always wants us to guess who the F1 is before it actually airs.

I'd say he "telegraphs" the F1 sometimes: when ratings are slipping/previous season had unfortunately disasterous outcome/there's an actual relationship. Some people read the telegraphing differently.
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Are you referring to Page 16, Post 153 of the screencap thread?
That is one of the pictures that show the photoshopping that was done yes. It is not where it was discussed though. You can clearly see in those pictures though that Fleiss added more green to some of those trees.
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I'd say he "telegraphs" the F1 sometimes: when ratings are slipping/previous season had unfortunately disasterous outcome/there's an actual relationship. Some people read the telegraphing differently.
If this is true then how can Fleiss be "telegraphing" the outcome this time? According to the Shayne fans there is no mistaken that it is her hand, arm, shoulder, etc that is being proposed too. That to me is being crystal clear and is not something that Fleiss would do, until the time of the FRC that is. To me it just proves even more that Shayne is in fact NOT the F1 because I don't see that being her hand, arm, shoulder, etc.
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