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Old 04-24-2008, 05:45 PM   #561
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I've read in other threads that in the past the gifts have been significant - I beleive somebody said that Deanna and Jenni got them last year, at least there was footage of it, doen't necessarily mean that Bettina and Sheena didn't get a gift IMO
Well you do seem him entering each house and only in amanda/chelsea did he have a gift, course would have been hard to have him bring a gift on horseback with noelle, but he did not have one in hand when he walked into the house of lamas
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:52 PM   #562
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Hmmm, I am wondering if they don't actually get engaged but he asks her to wear the ring on her right hand. If you look at the picture of him putting the ring on her hand, the abc logo is backwards, you flip it around and it is her right hand not the left. That would also explain the bracelets being on her right arm.

Sorry if this has already been said.

Or the pic is flipped as others have said. Or the sunset pic has been flipped, who the heck knows.
I doubt he would be saying " I love you , will you marry me?" if he wasen't getting engaged. But then again this whole thing makes no sense , so why should his final words be any different. Trainwreck coming.
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:57 PM   #563
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1- what is that draped over the railing at the supposed FRC where she is leaning against him? Looks like a wrap for the dress but it is draped so neatly and the final one wouldn't wear a stole for the FRC - but one of F3 might on fantasy date or on LCD
2-isn't it interesting that as soon as bracelet/watch or some type of jewelry is sleuthed out and it seems that it's Amanda's shoulder at proposal but most likely Shayne's hand at non proposal that a very clear Shayne hand is displayed with a bracelet with a ring being place on it
3-why has there been no mention of FIR - i think it's because they want us to forget he was smitten with her since beginning
4-early post that girl who leaves at F3 has hissy fit - doesn't fit Amanda at all - Chelsea I don't think so either - she would go with grace - maybe be upset but not a tantrum - and I really don't think Shayne would either but she would to promote her acting ability ad attract attention
5- i'm holding onto Shayne leaves this week - hissy fit - girl leaning against him is at fantasy date - ring with bracelet picture we'll never see again or is fantasy date and "pretending"
6- this all has set up written all over it
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:21 PM   #564
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Still very new here, but have been reading this thread.

On a small note, somebody said something about Shayne's watch being on her right arm and she would have to wear the bracelet on the other....I have noticed Shayne wear a bracelet and watch on the same arm. And the bracelet was pretty big too.

Not a big deal, but somebody touched on it, forget who.
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:30 PM   #565
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Still very new here, but have been reading this thread.

On a small note, somebody said something about Shayne's watch being on her right arm and she would have to wear the bracelet on the other....I have noticed Shayne wear a bracelet and watch on the same arm. And the bracelet was pretty big too.

Not a big deal, but somebody touched on it, forget who.
Right! A few of us have said that she wears her watch/bracelets on her right wrist and I am one that is confused as to why she has them on her left wrist.

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Right! A few of us have said that she wears her watch/bracelets on her right wrist and I am one that is confused as to why she has them on her left wrist.

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Well thank you for the WELCOME

And you're right. Hey, I know we don't KNOW Shayne, but she might seem like the type to think, "Ok, if I get a ring, I'll need to show it off with this great bracelet" You never know. I mean, she's very fashionable. And great at it!

And also, like someone else said, it could have been his gift to her right then? Or earlier?
And the whole ring and bracelet look, would look great!
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Well thank you for the WELCOME

And you're right. Hey, I know we don't KNOW Shayne, but she might seem like the type to think, "Ok, if I get a ring, I'll need to show it off with this great bracelet" You never know. I mean, she's very fashionable. And great at it!

And also, like someone else said, it could have been his gift to her right then? Or earlier?
And the whole ring and bracelet look, would look great!
You could be right.
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Being an Amanda fan I hate to agree but that picture of the hand is definitely Shayne. I definitely didn't see it at first and thought it might be a set up but on this week's episode when he said good bye to the girls it was always with a generic pet name like honey, or something like that except with Shayne. He said good bye monkey and miss you. I don't know why but i thought that was significant and kind of alluded to the fact that maybe there is something more to the two of them.

I am still holding out hope that maybe Amanda is still somehow how F1 but in light of those pictures I think it's all in vein
I didn't want to see it with Sadie either , but once the hand shot came out , I knew it was Jen. This is pretty much the same. I just wish Shayn's edit had been different.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:02 PM   #569
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There is no way to explain that sunset sc other that to say that is an AFRC sc.

This site is on the Hilton grounds with the cannons overlooking the ocean and was specifically picked for a beautiful scenic sunset ending just like in Bachelor 10.

If TPTB were going to utilize this scene for another instance rather than the FRC and AFRC, TPTB would have picked another site for the entire FRC.
The FRC is a culmination of what romance is on this show. So that scene will be the most romantically decorated and projected. :
TPTB would not dilute the FRC by having the exact location's sunset usurped by another date.
Matt is wearing a suit. He is not wearing a suit for any of the FD. He is not wearing a suit at the 3-2 RC. So what other time could it be when Matt is wearing a suit? The FRC.
The girl standing in front of Matt is wearing the diamonique bracelet on her left hand--yes the sc is flipped along with all the other hand/proposal scs that Blondiegal posted yesterday evening. Thank you Blondie!!

Now please don't read any further if you are dead set the F1 is Amanda.
The F1 is pretty much obscured by Matt in the sunset photo. You can not see her head above Matt's shoulder.
Amanda has had her height referred to several times on various boards as 5'9". Let's be very conservative and say she is only wearing 2" heels. That would make her 5'11". But for the sake of argument, let's say she is barefoot at 5'9".
Matt is 6'5. That is only 8 inches difference between the their heights and that is if Amanda is barefoot in this photo.
Now take a ruler--go to a mirror and measure the length of your own head. (yes, I know this is goofy and inaccurate at best ) Most heads are at least 7 inches if not more in length. I am 5'1" and petite and my head was 7 inches in length.
Now add a few inches for Matt's neck..he does have one, I think.
So let's say for arguments sake Matt has a tiny head and it's only 7 inches in length and he has almost no neck and it is only 2 inches in length. That equals 9 inches. (my head and neck were those measurements and I would think Matt might be bigger at 6'5")
So in order for Amanda to be obscured by Matt's shoulder--she would have to be more 9 inches shorter than Matt and barefoot in this photo. And she's not, she is only 8.

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Old 04-24-2008, 07:18 PM   #570
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I just looked at some "toast pics" and amanda is standing next to matt wearing high heels, she could if standing directly in front of him and leaning into definitely be obscured by his body and neck, jmo
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