Shayne **Spoilers**

[BlondieGal]

Originally Posted by Bet2Win

I thought Shayne and Matt's time together at the RC was very sweet ... or at least it was edited that way. And he had his arm around her during the entire toast ...

So, as far as all the kissing from Matt ... it seems he is the one that initiates the kisses with Shayne, and with the others, it's the girls who initiate the kissing ... but I missed his date with Amanda ... who was kissing who on their date? His kiss with Marshana was anything but hot.

Shayne and Matt's time together was incredibly sweet, and it was just bit of their time together but it said so much. In the past posters have complained about not seeing the love story throughout the show, but if Shayne ends up being the final one I have to say that I am indeed seeing it.

I was thinking that the second kiss with Marshana (after Holly left) looked like the exact same one of the first one he had with her.

Originally Posted by angelic_one2002

I'm sure Amanda and the rest of the girls saw and noticed things we didnt even get to see as viewers.

In talking with bachelorettes from past seasons, they could tell right away who the Bachelor was highly attracted to right away. The producers really could take the cut from 25 to F4 the first night.

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[angelic_one2002]

I see the love story too, BlondieGal. The guy is totally into Shayne, no doubt. We may look for other clues because we like Amanda or Chelsea more, but I do see way more story line between he and Shayne.

[TNmomof4]

Originally Posted by BlondieGal

Shayne and Matt's time together was incredibly sweet, and it was just bit of their time together but it said so much. In the past posters have complained about not seeing the love story but if Shayne ends up being the final one, I have to say that I am indeed seeing it.

I was thinking that the second kiss with Marshana after Holly left looked like the exact same one of the first one he had with her.

Blondie, I thought exactly the same thing. Hopefully that means he didn't go back and make out with her! He seemed genuinely destressed at having to let Holly go.

[shoepie]

I agree that the second kiss was a replay of the first kiss with Marshanna.

I adore Shayne. Every week I become more impressed with her honest, genuine and kind nature. She is precious. It speaks volumns that the other women like her, too. She is correct when she warned Robin that you cannot compete for love and she is living that in the house. Encouraging Robin to step back and give Joelle a turn illustrates this. Matt will either fall in love with her or not. She is being mature beyond her years with this aspect and very young other ways.

There seems to be no doubt that Matt adores her too. That doesn't mean that he will deem her a good match for him but I bet he will be a mess if he has to let her go.

At this point I would love to see Shayne as F1.

[anders332]

Originally Posted by kwtaylor

But how do we know that he and shayne couldn't make something work long-term--we don't know them and they could possibly be a great match--it's too soon to tell whether or not they would make it forever, but they definitely seem to be feeling each other--and shayne really is the only one with a storyline--

I can't say for sure that he doesn't pick Shayne (and I do like her) but Fleiss has already left us too many clues that she's probably not the chosen one.....

Clue 1 - the possessiveness during the Las Vegas Trip
Clue 2 - She's admitted that she's not looking for anything more than a boyfriend
Clue 3 - The amazing chemistry
Clue 4- A lot of screen time since night 1

[FelizMonkey]

Originally Posted by pajamasam

I imagine she meant that if you watch closely it will be obvious what's really going on. I think that's yet another clue that Shayne is F1. Folks who watch the show and buy into the Fleiss line will be confused as to who will be F1 as they are every season. Fleiss makes the guy seem torn until the last morning when he has an epiphany and then knows with whom he is in love.

Well she can do this sort of thing without worry since she knows the ending is pre-ordained. It's therefore easier for her to be helpful to the girls who havent had time with Matt at the cocktail party or one on one time on the group dates. Maybe it's just her personality to get involved and be helpful. Or perhaps the producers have suggested it to her.

Well said!! I, however, think (I hope) that's her personality.. I know she's an "actress" and everything, but when they came to take Holly's things ... well, her tears looked way to genuwine to be fake, plus they showed just a quick glimpse of that.. wouldn't you think if it was "pre-planned" they would play it out a little more.

I also observed when Shayne and Matt had that one-on-one time before the RC.. he looked at her way to tenderly like if he's really falling for her..

I am rooting for Shayne.. I've heard all the positive just as much as the negative comments about her.. but, I seem to see a more genuwine side of her.. I like her and I do hope she ends up happy at the end..

[BlondieGal]

Originally Posted by anders332

I can't say for sure that he doesn't pick Shayne (and I do like her) but Fleiss has already left us too many clues that she's probably not the chosen one.....

Clue 1 - the possessiveness during the Las Vegas Trip
Clue 2 - She's admitted that she's not looking for anything more than a boyfriend
Clue 3 - The amazing chemistry
Clue 4- A lot of screen time since night 1

Anders, I think that Clue 1 was actually showing Shayne as someone not used to "the process" and reacting to it. She senses something with Matt and wanting to get to know him better, and has to come to terms with it all, as have past bachelorettes.

With Clue 2 someone was able to transcribe what Shayne actually said to Matt, and it had to do with wanting to find someone to consider for marriage in the future (need to find that exact quote ~ if someone has it could they bring it up? ).

Clue 3 is typically one of the clues I look for, in addition to the sleuthing of screencaps, etc...., in determining the F1. That one was significant in how I figured out F1 of Estella for Bob's show.

You are correct that Clue 4 is not typical for the F1, but it has been done before with Jerry during Jen's season. It would be very difficult to not highlight Shayne during this show given Matt and her storyline, as well as her interaction with the women.

[pajamasam]

The Clue 2 quote you are referring to was her comment that she was looking for someone to "move forward" with.
As to Clue 3 , well I'm not feeling the amazing chemistry the way I did with Andy and Tessa or Meredith and Ian. If you are seeing that, then it must make for a fun viewing experience. As for me, well, I taped parts of the show last night so I can just fast forward through.

[BlondieGal]

In terms of seeing the chemistry from both sides of past shows, I would agree with Ian and Meredith ~ plus add in Byron and Mary.

Found it!

Originally Posted by BachNoFoolMe

Here is pretty much the quote sequence.

Shayne: They way I look at marriage, it's a HUGE (her voice emphasized this strongley).... (Matt interrupts)
Matt: Are you ready at 22 to make that committment?
Shayne: Not saying that I want to get married tomorrow. I'm saying that I would love to find that man that I can move forward with, possibly get married, yes...of course. What about you?
Matt: I'm ready now. Yeah, I wasn't ready when I was 22.
Shayne: I don't even think men are ready at 30. By the way, can I just add this in. Uhm, you're a little young.

[looselips]

Shayne is growing on me a lot. I'm still not convinced she's F1, but compared to some of what we saw early on, her personality is really being given a better edit, IMO. I loved the line to Robin: "I'm not trying to make you cry, dude." LOL. Not only did she put her in her place, but she did it with a bit of sympathy. Basically telling it like it is without trying to make the situation even worse or flare up other tempers. It was rather diplomatic, I thought.

That said... did anyone else notice the way Shayne was looking after Matt and Noelle when they walked off together for their fireside chat? It was HYSTERICAL. OMG. All I can say is, regardless of Noelle's fate, there is clearly a lot we are not being shown of her with Matt*** because I dare say that is the one and only genuinely jealous look I have seen from Shayne (disguised in what may be one of the funniest, stress smiles I have ever witnessed). I just watched it again and can't stop laughing.

***Including the coat kiss. I did, do and always will think that was Noelle. It was cut from either the beginning or end of their fireside convo.