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Old 04-12-2008, 11:57 PM   #1151
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I thought that was weird too, as in the last episode...he accuses Kelly of that. And she is gone? Is that a missprint?
I am not to confident in these "press release people" these days, they seem to repeat what has already happened, or give us descriptions on what has previously occurred as if it is about to happen again. Is it just me? Maybe their vocabulary is limited.

Do they even watch the show to know what they are talking about? I am starting to wonder......
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:03 AM   #1152
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YES. This is what I have been trying to express. We all accept that this show is somewhat scripted, both in the moment and post-production, since the editors have all sorts of tools at their disposal to create the story they want. So why not craft a real, believable romance? Why not let the plot build instead of forcing it? Why spend way more time on peripheral people and red herrings than the real storyline developing? Why give us a "heroine" (if indeed F1 is Shayne) that most people either don't believe or can't relate to? And why make Amanda look like America's sweetheart if you're just going to let her go at F3?
Oh, well -- at least I married the best man in the world. Time to go work out while he cooks us dinner and we have THE MOST ROMANTIC SATURDAY NIGHT IN SUSHIFAN HISTORY.
Point well taken. I think Shayne is pretty, smart and has a good heart. I also think she is to immature for Matt in the long run. Maybe, this is what Fleiss wanted us to see in the beginning even though the chemistry seems to be dynamite between the two.

I would like to see a romance developing too. This is where I think Fleiss is having problems with his editing. He has a smart bachelor with an excellent sense of humor and I think he could have had a successful season. If he had given us a slow love story developing. I like Shayne, but I am also ready to see something about the other girls.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:03 AM   #1153
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But - is she TOO secure?? Is she the one that is addressed this week as being too confident??? uuummm
Is there such a thing as being "too secure"? I think secure = sexy and would be appealing to any man...jmo
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I think that it goes back to the second episode where Matt was explaining the process to Shayne, and she understood that his time will have to be divided among the women.

Also, she may be making certain that Matt feels that she is the one for him ~ and not someone else. Very mature on her part.
IMO Shayne knew the process very well, and like Matt said, he expected her to know it best out of all the girls there. He tells her that the woman he wants to end up with in the end will be up for that, and what does Shayne do at the last RC, she tells him she wants him to send them all home right now, and then tells him "look what i'm doing, I'm dating a guy who is dating 7 other woman. Just what he wants to hear after telling her what he expected in vegas. IMO Not to sharp on Shayn's part and I don't think anything is going over this guys head., and I don't think I would under estimate him ..
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ITA BlondiGal. I think after Shayne had the breakdown about the process, and she spoke to him about it, she realized that if she wanted to continue to get to know him, she would need to accept it. I do think it showed her insecurities and hopefully she learned that if it's her he wants, he will need to find that out through the process.
She should let him do it then, without complaining about it. She knows how the show works IMO. That's the difference between a 27 yr old and a 22 yr old. I think Shayne shows alot of immaturity and can't see where she is so mature about things. I see it the exact opposite. she is cute as a button and very entertaining ,to say the least. She cracks me up. I just do not see her with Matt , or in London, or being serious about him, or able to intellectually converse on his level. JMO
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IMO Shayne knew the process very well, and like Matt said, he expected her to know it best out of all the girls there. He tells her that the woman he wants to end up with in the end will be up for that, and what does Shayne do at the last RC, she tells him she wants him to send them all home right now, and then tells him "look what i'm doing, I'm dating a guy who is dating 7 other woman. Just what he wants to hear after telling her what he expected in vegas. IMO Not to sharp on Shayn's part and I don't think anything is going over this guys head., and I don't think I would under estimate him ..
I guess if you don't like Shayne you will never see it, at the last RC I saw Matt seek Shayne out and was questioning why she was so laid back with him, again this is his insecurities with Shayne and I saw Shayne trying to reassure him that she was into him and only him.......
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She should let him do it then, without complaining about it. She knows how the show works IMO. That's the difference between a 27 yr old and a 22 yr old. I think Shayne shows alot of immaturity and can't see where she is so mature about things. I see it the exact opposite. she is cute as a button and very entertaining ,to say the least. She cracks me up. I just do not see her with Matt , or in London, or being serious about him, or able to intellectually converse on his level. JMO

But how do any of us know, that any of them knows how the process works? I see Shayne with Matt just as much as any of the F3....Again opinion who knows what intellectually level any of them are on, with Amanda's meep's how could you tell that she would be able to converse with him seriously any of the last 3 will be ok with me because it's Matt choice....
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Question? During the meet & greet when Shayne stepped out of the limo and Matt saw her. In his PI did he say I knew I was trouble.
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Question? During the meet & greet when Shayne stepped out of the limo and Matt saw her. In his PI did he say I knew I was trouble.
This is what I have when Shayne and Matt spoke for the first time inside the house ~

"The minute I first set my eyes on Shayne there was instant kind of attraction from my side, you know, and I hope her side."

I will have to go back to see if there is a specific VO while she is approaching him, but I do remember a guitar-type music playing ~ not "the" Ian/Meredith guitar music though.

Listened to my dvd ~

Matt did not say anything specific towards Shayne but after he met her, Chris walked up to him and asked "So what do you think?"

Matt replied "I'm blown away, man. I'm seriously, seriously blown away. There are some beautiful women."

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I guess if you don't like Shayne you will never see it, at the last RC I saw Matt seek Shayne out and was questioning why she was so laid back with him, again this is his insecurities with Shayne and I saw Shayne trying to reassure him that she was into him and only him.......
Excellent syposis and what was occuring between Matt and Shayne, luvlady!
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This is what I have when Shayne and Matt spoke for the first time inside the house ~

"The minute I first set my eyes on Shayne there was instant kind of attraction from my side, you know, and I hope her side."

I will have to go back to see if there is a specific VO while she is approaching him, but I do remember a guitar-type music playing ~ not "the" guitar music though.



Excellent syposis and what was occuring between Matt and Shayne, luvlady!

Thanks BlondieGal, the reason I asked that question. I was going through Matt's interviews and a few things caught my attention. "I knew I was in trouble I fancied her as soon as I saw her".

I read in another thread I can't remember which one that Shayne told Matt that she is ready to settle down. Matt said in another interview, "I think we put to much emphasis on age. I think that's a bit silly. If the person is ready, they're ready and age is almost irrelevant".
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