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Old 04-10-2008, 02:18 PM   #1051
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:20 PM   #1052
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It is said often on FORT, but I'll say it again, that the discussions about the participants are generally understood to be about the TV-version of these people, which may or may not represent who they are in real life (IRL). Based on the premise of The Bachelor, we rely on what's shown in order to tell us the story of how two people come together. When things are said on the show that suggest a couple won't make a good match, we at least look for them to show us how the couple gets past that. Though this is considered a 'reality' show, it is incredibly produced and edited in order to tell the 'stories' of these people. They are the stories of the show, not necessarily the stories of these people IRL - in a sense, even in 'reality' shows, the participants all play roles much like they are actors. So, most of the comments apply to the 'role' of the characters on the show and I think it is understood that those characters are not necessarily who these people really are. Unfortunately, its not quite that simple because these people use their own names and are 'playing' themselves, but again I think most people are able to separate the two. It's difficult if you know them personally, but if you keep the above in mind (or are a huge fan), I would think it helps to know that most people know the difference.

Great post!! I absolutely agree w/it!! This is a very good thing to keep in mind when watching the show and reading the comments on it!
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:38 PM   #1053
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Matt believes there is more to Shayne then only being high maintenance/sex kitten. Matt also believes that Shayne could prove him wrong. I am starting to see that with Shayne. She is a contender for F1.
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Matt believes there is more to Shayne then only being high maintenance/sex kitten. Matt also believes that Shayne could prove him wrong. I am starting to see that with Shayne. She is a contender for F1.
I agree that she really has more to her then what meets the eye at first, and I believe that Matt sees that and that is why she makes it to at least F3. But, he is also aware that she is high maintenance and as much as he is attracted to her - I think he realizes that a long term relationship with Shayne might be iffy.

If he had never met any of the other girls, I think he would have gotten to know Shayne better but under the circumstances I think he will let her go at F3.
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I think they have done a terrible job of editing Shayne's interactions with Matt. While they let you see her gorgeous puppy dog eyes, they leave out too much of what she has to say! They make her appear at times to definitely be a sandwich short of a picnic. But I see this very beautiful but VERY VERY insecure girl who hasn't had alot of stability in her life. If he doesn't pick her I hope she learns through all this that she really is a special young lady.

But Matt seems pretty savy to me and I think he gets her completely as time goes on and understands her. I think he loves her athleticism. So many things about her are right up his alley. I think she takes him by surprise. I think he found her to be very physcially attractive initially and as time went on she became so much more to him. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and he's all about her about now. That's what I see.
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I agree that she really has more to her then what meets the eye at first, and I believe that Matt sees that and that is why she makes it to at least F3. But, he is also aware that she is high maintenance and as much as he is attracted to her - I think he realizes that a long term relationship with Shayne might be iffy.

If he had never met any of the other girls, I think he would have gotten to know Shayne better but under the circumstances I think he will let her go at F3.
You may be right here. she could very well go at F3. I'm still on the fence with her and Chelsea for that position.
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I think they have done a terrible job of editing Shayne's interactions with Matt. While they let you see her gorgeous puppy dog eyes, they leave out too much of what she has to say! They make her appear at times to definitely be a sandwich short of a picnic. But I see this very beautiful but VERY VERY insecure girl who hasn't had alot of stability in her life. If he doesn't pick her I hope she learns through all this that she really is a special young lady.

But Matt seems pretty savy to me and I think he gets her completely as time goes on and understands her. I think he loves her athleticism. So many things about her are right up his alley. I think she takes him by surprise. I think he found her to be very physcially attractive initially and as time went on she became so much more to him. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and he's all about her about now. That's what I see.
This is very sweet. And I agree they barely show a snippet of what is actually said between these girls and Matt. Although, Shayne along with Chelsea and Amanda never seem to be at a loss for words when Matt asks them questions. This is where I think Ashlee and Holly lost his interest.
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I think they have done a terrible job of editing Shayne's interactions with Matt. While they let you see her gorgeous puppy dog eyes, they leave out too much of what she has to say! They make her appear at times to definitely be a sandwich short of a picnic. But I see this very beautiful but VERY VERY insecure girl who hasn't had alot of stability in her life. If he doesn't pick her I hope she learns through all this that she really is a special young lady.

But Matt seems pretty savy to me and I think he gets her completely as time goes on and understands her. I think he loves her athleticism. So many things about her are right up his alley. I think she takes him by surprise. I think he found her to be very physcially attractive initially and as time went on she became so much more to him. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and he's all about her about now. That's what I see.
Great post. I especially agree with that last paragraph. I see it the same way.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:41 AM   #1059
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I also think that when Marshana says to Matt "no guts, no glory" a light bulb goes off in his head..whether or not this related to her own date I'm not sure but I think it'll play out deeper than just this 1 date.
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I still see Matt completely captivated by Shayne. He's already said that she's out of his league. Then he sees this side of her that's athletic, which he ReALLY likes. I think that most men have a hard time resisting a woman they find mysterious and I believe Matt finds her mysterious. I see him really liking Chelsea but it being too comfortable (no challenge) and Amander is beautiful, but I don't see them connecting mentally. It looks like sometimes Matt doesn't get her humor...
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