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Old 04-24-2008, 04:41 PM   #1291
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Re: Body, Lip and Facial Communication Bachelor 12 *SPOILERS*

See KareyR2 - I do in a way like Chelsea - mostly because she reminds me of my sister, who my mother always said was the son she didn't have. And lord knows none of us are perfect, we've all from time to time displayed bad language or behaviour - so that really didn't bother me - what did was the fact that she did it on national television, and it wouldn't have hurt her one bit to curb her natural tendencies towards the coarser language, etc., because once uttered, once shown, we never forget them and tend to look with a jaundiced eye at that person, ever after.

No, I really don't care for Shayne, perhaps because I'm a much older person. I asked my granddaughter (24 yrs old) to look at one episode and let me know what her feelings were - she responded back with comments on each girl (she looked at ep 3 I think) . She thought Shayne was very childish, and wouldn't be the kind of person she would 'hang out' with.

It's been a really difficult season to watch. (and read about). Good luck to Matt and whoever she may be.
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:42 PM   #1292
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You are not seeing just a rose, but a reflection of a woman holding the rose. <--Or rather, that's what you're not seeing!
Gee thanks way to make me feel inadequate I guess I need sleuthing lessons!
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:45 PM   #1293
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Gee thanks way to make me feel inadequate I guess I need sleuthing lessons!
No, more like a reallllly vivid imagination.
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:05 PM   #1294
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No, more like a reallllly vivid imagination.
I think WE ALL have vivid imaginations on here!...Just look at all the scenerios we have conjured up!
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See KareyR2 - I do in a way like Chelsea - mostly because she reminds me of my sister, who my mother always said was the son she didn't have. And lord knows none of us are perfect, we've all from time to time displayed bad language or behaviour - so that really didn't bother me - what did was the fact that she did it on national television, and it wouldn't have hurt her one bit to curb her natural tendencies towards the coarser language, etc., because once uttered, once shown, we never forget them and tend to look with a jaundiced eye at that person, ever after.

No, I really don't care for Shayne, perhaps because I'm a much older person. I asked my granddaughter (24 yrs old) to look at one episode and let me know what her feelings were - she responded back with comments on each girl (she looked at ep 3 I think) . She thought Shayne was very childish, and wouldn't be the kind of person she would 'hang out' with.

It's been a really difficult season to watch. (and read about). Good luck to Matt and whoever she may be.
I agree 100% Northernlights! Chelsea works in sales and her clients will all see this too and her MOTHER. There are some things a Mom doesn't want to know or see.
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I'm bringing this over from the Amanda thread:

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Take a look at the SC oooof them walking holding hands ( zip line), the SC of them sitting on the balcony in the lounge. And another when they are at dinner. He has a concerned look on his face .almost like he knows he is going to hurt her. I could be worng and I hope im wrong , but that's what I'm seeing. Then look at Shayne's dinner SC. He is kissing her with both hands on her face.
Okay, let's look at this from another point of view. When we see Matt and Amanda walking to/from the zipling there is a screencap of him holding her hand and holding them against his leg...reading as I'm glad you're here with me. On the balcony cuddle he appears to be rubbing her stomach which reads as intimate but also I want my baby in there (or, as I said before, unless she has cramps it could read as soothing). Laying together as *one* body, I guess you call it a spooning position?, is more intimate in some ways than a facing each other cuddle. Facing each other=two distinct people. Spooning=one person.

With Shayne, yes, both hands on the face normally reads as far more intimate a kiss but she's leaning in to him and we don't know if he is going to kiss any of the other girls like this because we aren't shown anything yet. So, it could end up reading intimate but it could also read as holding her head because she's leaning in and he is helping her to keep balance. Also, in the hottub kiss shown in the previews it looks like a closed mouth kiss to me, particularly Shayne, and he moves his mouth away to her shoulder, opens his eyes a little, looks off, and has an expression on his face that reads like he's shaking his head, though with his eyes, as though he's going to hurt her and he feels bad about it. Very hard to explain but if you watch the previews in slo-mo you'll see it.

Nothing is definitive until we actually *see* it but this is what I see looking at those shots and watching the previews. I still think it's Michelle P. in the green dress cuddling against Matt during the sunset shot. She has read hair and she likes green dresses. Plus, I'm sure I saw a cat in that photo too
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I keep looking at the hand thing, and the more i look at it, the more I'm not sure, mainly because i get a vein on my index finger when its hot also, so i dont know about that.

But since this is the communication thread has anyone done any analysed screencaps of the height and elbow extension from the prosposal screencaps?

I know the ladies where heels but generally they are the same height/type on Amanda/Chelsea/Shayne...well Shayne almost always wears porn shoes..Just check the rose ceremonies, the heel heights are almost always the same.

Now there is quite a height difference between the girls (especially with Shayne)

Im not technical at all with screencaps so i was just wondering if anyone could approximate Matt Kneeling down height (Take away his lower leg etc) and then match it up to the ladies standing up with an elbow extended (the rose ceremonies have arms extended etc)

Just a thought
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I keep looking at the hand thing, and the more i look at it, the more I'm not sure, mainly because i get a vein on my index finger when its hot also, so i dont know about that.

But since this is the communication thread has anyone done any analysed screencaps of the height and elbow extension from the prosposal screencaps?

I know the ladies where heels but generally they are the same height/type on Amanda/Chelsea/Shayne...well Shayne almost always wears porn shoes..Just check the rose ceremonies, the heel heights are almost always the same.

Now there is quite a height difference between the girls (especially with Shayne)

Im not technical at all with screencaps so i was just wondering if anyone could approximate Matt Kneeling down height (Take away his lower leg etc) and then match it up to the ladies standing up with an elbow extended (the rose ceremonies have arms extended etc)

Just a thought

Lynn did it on the Narrowing the field thread. #2734.
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Lynn did it on the Narrowing the field thread. #2734.
I just looked, thanks!
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I just looked, thanks!
You are most welcome! It helped me keep my grip on the ferris wheel, so I was glad to point it out!
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