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Old 04-22-2008, 01:14 PM   #1141
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Hi, Lynn, and thanks again for doing this! I officially have a crush on Mr. Wonderful - I'm glad you found a good guy!

What did you think of the outtake with Chelsea at the photo place? I thought Matt looked like he was in total LUST with Chelsea in that outfit.

I was especially waiting for your thoughts of this episode, and I am glad I'm not the only one seeing things the way I am - usually I'm pretty good at reading people, but I also fall prey to Fleiss's editing, especially the VO's. Of course, you pick up far more than I do!
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:17 PM   #1142
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How best to describe this? Hmm...last night, laying on the couch, Matt's body language read as complete surrender to Amanda (passive; vulnerable). When you compare that to Chelsea laying on top of him on the couch she is the aggressor so he is not reading the same. It's more like victim and it's why I refer to that shot as Chelsea attacking Matt. Really hard to explain.

On the scene with them out on the deck that you're referring to he is, once again, in complete surrender to her, he has her not quite enveloped between him, like we see him indicate with Shayne, but his body language isn't protective, guarding her, like he does with Shayne. There's a freeness on his part with Amanda but it's complete surrender. Fully physically and sexually open to her. It's as though his body is reading as, "I'm all yours; you are a part of me (because she laying against him in the same direction; one body instead of two)." I hope I described that okay. I know what I'm trying to say but I'm not sure I'm saying it right.
First of all thanks for the analyses,Lynn. There is another sc of them on the water with her (I think it's Amanda)in front of him,enveloping her in his embrace,looking out to the ocean.I thought that sc just exudes peace,contentment,and screams"this is the woman I want to be with." Sorry,I don't know how to post it here. What do you think,Lynn?
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Surrender was actually the word I was looking for, just could not think of it. I agree that it is interesting that the two of us who rely so much on body language, thought the same thing.
I thought he looked content in that shot....you know how you dig yourself down into a couch all comfortable.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:43 PM   #1144
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EXACTLY...and as others have noted he is looking directly into someone's face...the height of the sholder IS a factor...THAT CANNOT BE SHAYNE (unless she has some killer heels on!)
Longtime lurker, I just had to post. Has anyone mentioned that maybe it is a picture of Matt rising from his proposal? Because his face looks blissful like he got the answer he wanted.

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Longtime lurker, I just had to post. Has anyone mentioned that maybe it is a picture of Matt rising from his proposal? Because his face looks blissful like he got the answer he wanted.
brumgirl thank you for coming out of lurkdom! I hadn't thought of that, but it is a very good possibility. He definitely looks "blissful"
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:41 PM   #1146
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Thanks Casualfan, I just want it to be Amanda to win.
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lynn7 what do you think about the pic of him with a girl looking out into the sunset? tell me its not shayne
I'm not lynn but this is what I see.

On the sc of Matt looking out people are saying they see an elbow but what I see is matt's arms crossed and his had over at his opposite elbow with the white of his shirt sleeve sticking out. I don't think any girl in that picture.
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I'm not lynn but this is what I see.

On the sc of Matt looking out people are saying they see an elbow but what I see is matt's arms crossed and his had over at his opposite elbow with the white of his shirt sleeve sticking out. I don't think any girl in that picture.
ITA with you.. I am having a hard time seeing a girl in the picture. Wouldn't we see legs? I can't look at that cap anymore.. it hurts my eyes.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:19 PM   #1149
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AWWWWW Congratulations, you are truly blessed!
Did I forget to tell you I had daggers coming from my eyes JK he is really a great guy, that said....
I really see some great chemistry with Amanda and Matt, uh had to pause to make out with hubby, hmmm.... that couch seen did you see the smoke g Wahoo, well if he doesn't pick Amanda she will find her true one, she is staying true to herself, I think if you don't put it "all out there" then you have lost, if you truly want someone to know the "real" you then you just have to go for it. I think Amanda saw that she wanted to "go for it" since day 1.
I like all the girls they are all very unique (especially the families) in their own way, Matt obviously fell in love and he looks so happy.... I hope it works out for him
Final note, taking daughter to school, she asked me if I needed Bachelor Rehab, AGAIN
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:24 PM   #1150
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Did I forget to tell you I had daggers coming from my eyes JK he is really a great guy, that said....
I really see some great chemistry with Amanda and Matt, uh had to pause to make out with hubby, hmmm.... that couch seen did you see the smoke g Wahoo, well if he doesn't pick Amanda she will find her true one, she is staying true to herself, I think if you don't put it "all out there" then you have lost, if you truly want someone to know the "real" you then you just have to go for it. I think Amanda saw that she wanted to "go for it" since day 1.
I like all the girls they are all very unique (especially the families) in their own way, Matt obviously fell in love and he looks so happy.... I hope it works out for him
Final note, taking daughter to school, she asked me if I needed Bachelor Rehab, AGAIN
Nope cos you've got a Bachelorette coming up!!
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