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Old 04-20-2008, 02:57 PM   #1061
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This might not be the proper place to post this, but since the discussion has been going on in this thread, I will post my response in this thread. Feel free to move it a more proper place, mods. Anyway, I am honestly really getting confused about all the 'he won't pick Chelsea because she is a tomboy' stuff. Are girls that like to play sports but are still completely lovely girls not allowed to have boyfriends/husbands, etc.? I just do not understand how the fact that she had fun playing rugby and is fairly competitive would mean that she is not good girlfriend/wife potential. Are women like Mia Hamm, Jenni Finch and Monica Seles just supposed to hide their potential and talent so that they are worthy of a man? I guess the feminist in me just finds that utterly disturbing. Chelsea, while athletic, is also beautiful, sweet and fun.
I think it's just a preference of the guy, I think some like tomboys and others girlie types. I think Matt is looking for a combo of both, based off the last episode in search of her PDA side

I am starting to like her more each week, maybe that's the whole master plan!
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:01 PM   #1062
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I'm right with you (though as a former athlete, I'm probably biased). One would think that an athletically inclined man might like a sporty woman, so that they could play <insert sport here> or do <insert activity here> together.

Mommyof2poodles, I love that you could get your son to watch the show with you! That's great!
He is a good boy, isn't he?
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He is a good boy, isn't he?
hahaha oh my. That lady is so over the top. By looking at his body language, to keep this on topic, in that preview he looks really annoyed like he wants to get as far away from her as possible. I do think he will get a kick out of it though.
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:14 PM   #1064
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hahaha oh my. That lady is so over the top. By looking at his body language, to keep this on topic, in that preview he looks really annoyed like he wants to get as far away from her as possible. I do think he will get a kick out of it though.
I hope he will too. I just hope they don't let it go on too long. I hope the previews are actually more than we will see Monday and they will let him off the hook pretty quick. He looks like he wants the earth to open up and swallow him. I want to see the real parents and if they seem to get along. If we do and they don't get along then I will finally give up on Amanda.

So, then I guess the body language is more with Shayne than Chelsea.

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Old 04-20-2008, 03:19 PM   #1065
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I hope he will too. I just hope they don't let it go on too long. I hope the previews are actually more than we will see Monday and they will let him off the hook pretty quick. He looks like he wants the earth to open up and swallow him. I want to see the real parents and if they seem to get along. If we do and they don't get along then I will finally give up on Amanda.

So, then I guess the body language is more with Shayne than Chelsea.

I'm afraid that you are correct that, if they do not show her real parents, it cements my thoughts that she leaves at F3. However, I would never want you to give up on your girl! Even though everyone has pretty much written Chelsea off and the cards are stacked high against her, I'm sticking with her. I'll go down with the catamaran.
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:40 PM   #1066
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I'd say that he's not overly invested in any of them and that we'll have at best a showmance ending right after the press is over. I don't see Amanda acting as F1s do, so imo, if he did choose her, it's over by now. Also if he chooses her why is she so absent? She should be getting more camera time than Chelsea if she's f1. I can understand her getting less time than Shayne because she's the true star.

Chelsea--I see friends with flirting with "could it be more?" If he picks her it's because he know she'll understand.

Shayne: Come on, I just don't believe that she would choose Matt as a serious boyfriend. just don't see it happening.

So, I don't care who wins, because at best, I believe any relationship has since fizzled. I need to see the option of NO true choice, only showmance as a survey option. My best guess, backed up my multiple sources, including the "flaxen hair. . ." spoiler point to a Shayne win and probably a default pick.

If Amanda is f1 I'd advise the pr department to get a spoiler screen cap out there that sleuthers can offer as proof of her advancing to F2.
I don't know about the relationship being over as of yet. He was interviewed last week and the F1 was with him in London. So apparently they are still together. For how long is another question.
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This might not be the proper place to post this, but since the discussion has been going on in this thread, I will post my response in this thread. Feel free to move it a more proper place, mods. Anyway, I am honestly really getting confused about all the 'he won't pick Chelsea because she is a tomboy' stuff. Are girls that like to play sports but are still completely lovely girls not allowed to have boyfriends/husbands, etc.? I just do not understand how the fact that she had fun playing rugby and is fairly competitive would mean that she is not good girlfriend/wife potential. Are women like Mia Hamm, Jenni Finch and Monica Seles just supposed to hide their potential and talent so that they are worthy of a man? I guess the feminist in me just finds that utterly disturbing. Chelsea, while athletic, is also beautiful, sweet and fun.
Heaths , It's the way she is being edited , that people are basting their opinions on. I'm sure Chelsea IRL is a terrific girl. IF she were F1, Fleiss would have and could have given her a better edit. She is getting the buddy/friend /drama edit instead. I'm sure Chelsea will find her prince, and will make a wonderful wife/mother.
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:58 PM   #1068
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Hey Lynn,
I too, want to tell you how much I love your insight. I have a question from a long time ago. You offered to read lips for us if we need it and I dont think this has ever been mentioned. When Shane and Matt were on their winery date, they were talking about being ready to settle down and the convo went something like this.....Matt...I'm ready now, I dont think I was ready when I was 22.....Shane....let me just say, I dont think guys are ready at 30...you're a little young...ect.... My question is, the convo contiued and Matt said something and then Shane did too. I cant quite see Matts lips but Shanes are directed right at the camera. Can you please fill in the blanks for us. I think it probably still had something to do with age but I'm so nosy I would love to know. Thanks alot and I love all you do for us...
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Old 04-20-2008, 04:46 PM   #1069
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In the college kids I've taught, I've seen a star basketball player engaged (and later married) to a petite little girl that didn't know a thing about basketball. I've seen a good-looking jock fall for a female athlete who didn't look or try to look "girlie" at all. I usually think opposites attract (that's what I've seen a lot, and that's my husband and me), but the bottom line is who you fall for. I've seen a lot of couples and think "what on earth. . ." But they're in love, and that's all that matters!

IMO he's fallen hard for Amanda. You can see it in his eyes and in his body language. And I've learned a lot from Lynn to reinforce my beliefs. I'll be shocked if he doesn't pick her, but that only means he has fallen for someone else, and TPTB better show us that in upcoming episodes!!
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Old 04-20-2008, 05:02 PM   #1070
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Beachmom (I wonder if we're related ), you make excellent points. I think we all know at least one couple that you would never think go together but somehow it works for them.
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