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Old 05-12-2008, 12:45 PM   #3671
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I saw that too casualfan. Hey, I just had a thought - you might have to change your user name to "more than a casual fan" with all the wonderful posting you are doing this season!

I'm sorry, I don't know what media they will be doing. I hope it is enough to keep fans happy but not so much as to make it nutso for the couple

Isn't that the truth aanjheni!? What do you think "formercasualfan"? That's just too long! I like the irony of "casualfan" because it seems my posts have outed me as anything but I'm going back to truly being a casualfan for DeAnna's season though, it will be nice just to enjoy the ride again.

No worries. I don't blame them if they don't do any media. Of course the fans will want to hear from them, as will the naysayers. After all, what will the naysayers have to snark about once the book is closed on this season of the Bachelor?
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:46 PM   #3672
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This is the emotional climax. Weren't we all tired and excited on our wedding days? But the emotional high buoys the happy couple along the way. None of that here. Hopefully, when they are together ?

Andy B went straight back to work the very next day and flew from Hawaii to NYC to LA, and his sincere enthusiasm for the (sigh, short-lived) love match oozed from his very pores.

Matt looks like he wants to be done with it already.

Ironically, if (as I understand it) he is trying to break into hosting/talk show entertainment business here or in UK, he needs to pop in some Visine, down a Red Bull, and a Venti Triple Latte, and get ready for his close-up. A shave wouldn't hurt.
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My impression from the interview was that he contradicted what he said prior to and during the entire season: that he was ready to get married now. He kept making the case that time was an issue b/c of his dad, etc. and that he was anxious and ready to get on with marriage, kids, etc.

Yes, he was blah, but we could chalk it up to being tired, but we also saw him drinking in every episode. Those English cheeks were flushed and he always had that drowsy, lothario look going.

So maybe he's just being English. They are also less animated and more laid back than we are.
I don't think the contradictions are that big of an issue. When you go through this life changing experience your focus often shifts. Beforehand - he had a long range focus - wife and family. With the intensity of all the emotions going through him: loving someone, strong feelings for another, having to reject 24 women, physical exhaustion - your focus is going to shift to the here and now - it's all he can do to survive the next several weeks. Once they get past this hectic time and can relax and just BE - then the focus may shift again. They need to go one step at a time and just focus on that.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:49 PM   #3674
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This is the emotional climax. Weren't we all tired and excited on our wedding days? But the emotional high buoys the happy couple along the way. None of that here. Hopefully, when they are together ?

Andy B went straight back to work the very next day and flew from Hawaii to NYC to LA, and his sincere enthusiasm for the (sigh, short-lived) love match oozed from his very pores.

Matt looks like he wants to be done with it already.

Ironically, if (as I understand it) he is trying to break into hosting/talk show entertainment business here or in UK, he needs to pop in some Visine, down a Red Bull, and a Venti Triple Latte, and get ready for his close-up. A shave wouldn't hurt.
Andy's emotional high was that he was on TV all the time.....
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This is the emotional climax. Weren't we all tired and excited on our wedding days? But the emotional high buoys the happy couple along the way. None of that here. Hopefully, when they are together ?

Andy B went straight back to work the very next day and flew from Hawaii to NYC to LA, and his sincere enthusiasm for the (sigh, short-lived) love match oozed from his very pores.

Matt looks like he wants to be done with it already.

Ironically, if (as I understand it) he is trying to break into hosting/talk show entertainment business here or in UK, he needs to pop in some Visine, down a Red Bull, and a Venti Triple Latte, and get ready for his close-up. A shave wouldn't hurt.
Matt is no Andy B. Personally, I'm quite pleased about that.

A shave?! Bite your tongue I dig the Sonny Crockett meets David Beckham look. En fuego.
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Matt is no Andy B. Personally, I'm quite pleased about that.

A shave?! Bite your tongue I dig the Sonny Crockett meets David Beckham look. En fuego.
I agree--matt is no andy b, thankfully! I also am diggin his new hair cut and the david beckham look!!!
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If he was evasive and deceptive, then yup something is definately amiss and methinks he and TPTB are being odd about this whole season.... Now I don't think Shayne is F1 and that either Chelsea is F1 or he admits that he made a mistake letting amanda go and calls her back ( dreaming again.. *LOL*) If he does admit that, then yes I can see where the best bachelor comes into play here( he'd be the only bachelor ever to call someone back and admit he made a mistake right?)

Because as of right now, I do not see him as the best bachelor ever. maybe the funniest and wittiest definately but not best. I'm still not seeing that plot twist that Fleiss was talking about that he said even he couldn't have dreamed up unless it was the HTD prank which I don't think it is because I know he had to have dreamed that one up.. there's no way amanda could have done that on her own.
Do you remember where you saw this? The only thing I can think of is that Matt, unlike Richard Gere in An Officer and a Gentleman, actually came to like his costar. His condescension towards her definitely seemed to diminish.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:28 PM   #3678
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The plot twist, Fleiss's words, not mine, was Amanda's meeps. I always hated that she was referred to by Fleiss as a device, not a person, in his scheme.
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Do you remember where you saw this? The only thing I can think of is that Matt, unlike Richard Gere in An Officer and a Gentleman, actually came to like his costar. His condescension towards her definitely seemed to diminish.

I get the feeling that Matt uses pet names as an endearment, and not condescension ... sex kitten, snow monkey, etc. I find myself using pet names, much to the chagrin of my DH, the one he dislikes the most is honey bunny ... but it slips off my tongue all to easily.
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The plot twist, Fleiss's words, not mine, was Amanda's meeps. I always hated that she was referred to by Fleiss as a device, not a person, in his scheme.
Interesting definition of Plot Twist.

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A plot twist is a change ("twist") in the direction or expected outcome of the plot of a film, television series, video game, novel, comic or other fictional work. It is a common practice in narration used to keep the interest of an audience, usually surprising them with a revelation. Some "twists" are foreshadowed and can thus be predicted by many viewers, whereas others are a complete shock.

When a plot twist happens near the end of a story, especially if it changes one's view of the preceding events, it is known as a twist ending.

Revealing the existence of a plot twist often spoils a movie, since the majority of the movie generally builds up to the plot twist.

A device used to undermine the expectations of the audience is the false protagonist. It involves presenting a character at the start of the film as the main character, but then disposing of this character, usually killing them.
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