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Old 04-04-2008, 11:27 PM   #1091
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I totally feel like we're watching a tennis match-- at this moment in time, it's Shayne... in 10 seconds, we're going to change our minds... no wait! something else has popped up.... sorry, wrong! it was nothing...

Okay, it's Friday night-- off to have a few
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What's the purpose for having an expensive car, a cheaper one will do the job too.
Ahh, but I have 2 kids and a dog, as well as am tall and am married to a 6'5" man so we have my gas-guzzling SUV that I refuse to give up. I didn't say I wasn't materialistic in my own way... but, yes, if we couldn't afford the car, I'd give it up in a heartbeat and such would be life.
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Ahh, but I have 2 kids and a dog, as well as am tall and am married to a 6'5" man so we have my gas-guzzling SUV that I refuse to give up. I didn't say I wasn't materialistic in my own way... but, yes, if we couldn't afford the car, I'd give it up in a heartbeat and such would be life.
Exactly! That's the word.
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i see your point soccermama, but i think of someone shallow and materialistic as a person who cares about nothing but material things--people who could care less about other people or real world stuff and focuses only on material things---i have lots of bags, shoes, and sunglasses myself but i wouldn't consider myself shallow--so it could be that shayne appreciates nice things and like most girls loves shoes bags sunglasses, but isn't shallow. i guess my point is liking nice things and being shallow are different.
I agree with you , I am probably pretty much like you myself. But looking at this particular situation , I know at Shayne's age (22) , I didn't have thoses things. I think age is a factor here. He is young and just starting to pave his financial future. She seems to be accustomed to more of a grand lifestyle . I think this would be a concern to the average guy. I think they are worlds apart in every aspect . Both great people , but too different. JMO
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That's what I was trying to say but you said it better.

I don't think anyone who knows me would ever think of me as shallow or matieralistic but, when I was her age, I collected very similar things that Shayne does. Sure, today, I like nice things in my home but I'm a Taurus so I'm allowed and I don't go overboard. Family and relationships are far more important and I can see that in Shayne, too. Once she gets older I can completely see her as giving up these fetishes, hobbies, or whatever they are called, and transferring the interest in those things to family and relationships. It just seems so clear to me that she would
I agree Lynn, Shayne will grow up someoday and her priorities will change (as we know) , But will Matt see it, that way in making his choice? She said she isnt ready to get married, he said ,he is.. He dosen't like high maintenance , she admitted she was.. I don't see Shayne as someone who would be happy giving up her lifestyle just yet, if anything I think she would want to continue that , no matter who she marries.. Oh , by the way, I'm a Taurus too...
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I totally feel like we're watching a tennis match-- at this moment in time, it's Shayne... in 10 seconds, we're going to change our minds... no wait! something else has popped up.... sorry, wrong! it was nothing...

Okay, it's Friday night-- off to have a few
The good news is that we are on the hump side of the week inbetween another Epi....yahooooo!
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So well put. I have a sister that is in her 60's and she loves to buy dress suits and hats, three closet full. She is certainly not materialistic, that just what she likes. When Shayne named those five things, those were things that she was talking about appearance wise, in other words whatever dress or outfit she had on didn't matter much as long as she had on the right shoes, watch, purse etc. If you was to ask a man, he would say all women are like this. I watch house hunters on HGTV and in every show, the woman wants a big closet to hold all her clothes and shoes.
LOL..I am a huge house hunters fan, and you are right... the woman is always looking for a big closet.. LOL!!! I love hand bags and watches!! I am the goof who will buy a new watch not a battery for the old watch. The more I watch.. the more I like Shayne. LOL!!! She's a cutie... but so is Amanda and Noelle!!! No favorites here... I just decided I want a nice love story ending!! Are you listening Fleiss??
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I do not consider Shayne materialistic... So she owns a lot of shoes... I would be willing to bet it's not 400, just like she hasn't been to vegas a thousand times and there weren't 20 girls downstairs.... It's an exaggeration.

Just because she collects shoes, watches and accessories doesn't make her materialistic. Materialism, to me, means an obsession with owning things. If she's a collector of shoes and purses, so what?

I'll bet many people on the board collect something and probably own MANY of those things. What about comic book collectors. Would you say they were materialistic? How about someone who collects boyd's bears? What about people who own 200+ movies... Are they materialistic?

I don't think owning a lot of shoes makes Shayne materialistic any more than I think Jay Leno owning a lot of cars makes him materialistic. Perhaps we should look at her as a collector instead of a glutton.

Frankly I disagree...I think both Jay and Shayne are materialistic.....and I enjoy them both. By your example, I suppose Imelda Marcos was a shoe collector also. Thanks
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Old 04-05-2008, 04:43 AM   #1099
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Yeah but the high maintenance and materialistic part sounds more like Shayne , then Amanda or Chelsea.
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LOL. This discussion about materialism is making me crack up. American's by our nature, culture and upbringing are incredibly materialistic. We pretty much stink of it. The fact that we have two (or more) of anything - two cars, two tvs, two radios, two watches, two pairs of sun glasses, two bathrooms, two winter coats, two sets of pots & pans, two pairs (of cream color!) boots - makes us materialistic. The fact that we own one or more of anything we don't actually "need" makes us materialistic. The more we own of something - of anything - the more materialistic we are. The fact that we buy new and better when what we have is sufficient is what makes us materialistic. It doesn't have anything to do with being able to buy more or better because we can afford it, it has to do with whether we actually "need" it. America is the biggest capitalistic society in the world and we pride ourselves on it - and you can't have capitalism unless you have a public that is willing to be materialistic. /rant

So, yeah, when Shayne says she likes shoes, handbags, sun glasses and cars - materialistic. Whether she would give them up for the right person, if she had to, we don't know. Whether or not Matt's willing to take a chance on either her affording to keep herself in the lifestyle she's become accustomed , that's she'll give it up because he can't afford it or that he'll find a way to manage it - we'll have to wait and see.

Amanda and Chelsea appear to live on more of a similar materialistic level as Matt, so it just isn't as much of an issue with them.

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