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Old 11-08-2007, 08:27 PM   #171
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There was one of the ladies where he said something like, "Tell me how you are feeling," and he is totally looking away, like he's not even waiting for the answer. I think it was Jenni, at the beginning of the conversation where he acted surprised that she was concerned about setting herself up for heartbreak. Did anyone else notice him turn away when he asked that question?
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Yes! Thank you, I was watching that ~ again ~ last nite and was totally confused by it. As though he was going through the motions asking questions, but not really interested in the answer with her.
Actually, he asked Jenni "What do you want to happen ?" and he asked her exactly the same question before, when she said she wanted to be the girl he fell in love with.

This scene confused me too, because we really didn't see the "set up" for this. Maybe she had said, I'm worried about what might happen or something along those lines. It didn't seem he actually looked "away" and was disinterested in the answer. He just seemed comfortable with her until she then expressed worry about setting herself up for disappointment. For all we know those two pieces were reversed.
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Just an interesting note.. Brad and Deanna ate mexican... Brad and Jenni have lobster... Brad and Jenni have sunflowers & candles all around their table and Deanna has little skeletons.

Interesting.
I thought so, too. Low maitenance (and, I think, his favorite food) vs. high maintenence?

I really thought Fleiss was having some fun with us on this one. On surface sunflowers look good for Jenni and skeletons = death (of romance?) for DeAnna. But, I believe that holiday is actually quite religious - All Souls Day? So really pointing to "soulmates"?

Hmmmmm.
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When she says she is falling in love with him he bites his lip, which would normally be an anxious expression, but it is followed by his eyes changing to what I would describe as smiling eyes and then he lowers his head and shows a big smile. He really liked her saying that; he indicated giddy with happiness for a moment there. Both hands on the face kiss...hmmm...and he smiles while he is kissing her. He doesn't want to let her go. He also opened his eyes, in the pool, while kissing her. I've noticed that she does this, too, and has done it many times. When you do that it's very intimate and personal.
Lynn, I'm sorry I missed that in your ealier analysis. Sometimes I miss a few things when trying to play catch-up here ! You know what I mean.

I am however, happy I saw they very same thing you did because I know I'm not seeing things. I have tried to discount this, because as said, I'm looking for Jenni signs, but my Dad used to try to hide what I called his "secret smile" and it always meant something good was coming. So for me that was a strong sign and I can only discount it by saying maybe it was camera awareness or the producers were prompting them in that scene. You know ... "DeAnna, you're not selling him a house, for crying out loud."
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I really thought Fleiss was having some fun with us on this one. On surface sunflowers look good for Jenni and skeletons = death (of romance?) for DeAnna. But, I believe that holiday is actually quite religious - All Souls Day? So really pointing to "soulmates"?
Hmmmmm.

Thank you for bringing this up!! I was bothered by the skeleton figures and thought "kiss of death" to their romance. But the Day of the Dead is a very religious and sacred holiday in Mexico / celebrated in the US on Nov 1st as All Souls Day. Therefore pointing to "soulmates" makes perfect sense to me

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One thing about the Brad/DeAnna date I noticed is that they left perfectly scrumptious deserts (untouched) on the table. I play the scene again just for a glimpse of the goodies. I also noticed that the Margarita glasses were not empty - whether that was first or second round, who knows...but with the intensity I could palpably feel between them, maybe they didn't have the time or inclination for another round.

Did you notice during her hair-up declaration that his eyes were so dilated you could barely see that luscious blue iris? Her's were very dark as well. Energy levels were humming between them.
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I am HoH, but can still hear with my hearing aids, TV sound way up and closed captioning is a life saver.

That said, I did watch it with no sound. If there is one thing that gets me in favor of DeAnna, it is how he pulls her hand (and thus her) and kisses her after she tells him her feelings. WOW!!

I am still pulling for Jenni, but expect it to be DeAnna.

Another thing I noticed though, was when he came back after walking Bettina out. He seems to go toward Jenni for the first hug, but DeAnna kinda walks into it instead. Any thoughts from the rest of you on that?
There certainly was some kind of chop chop in there because, you are right, it does look like he is going toward her and then they show the hug with DeAnna. It could be that he was on his way to collecting both women for a hug?

I couldn't remember if it was you or Lemondrop that was deaf. My hearing loss sounds similar to yours. If the volume is up really high I can hear things but, most of the time, the high volume is too uncomfortable for other viewers watching things with me. Actually, I only turn the volume up for when I watch hockey games because the close caption interferes too much and is generally inaccurate to the point that it's distracting trying to figure out what they are saying. I, too, have hearing aides but I don't like them so I only use them in certain situations.
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Just an interesting note.. Brad and Deanna ate mexican... Brad and Jenni have lobster... Brad and Jenni have sunflowers & candles all around their table and Deanna has little skeletons.

Interesting.

Hey... Blondie did you close the screencap analysis thread? I had a comment about those nails!
Did anyone notice that DeAnna didn't seem to eat much of her meal before they left for the suite? Either they did so much talking that she didn't have a chance to touch it, she doesn't care for mexican or she was thinking refried beans weren't a good thing for your first night alone together
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Did anyone notice that DeAnna didn't seem to eat much of her meal before they left for the suite? Either they did so much talking that she didn't have a chance to touch it, she doesn't care for mexican or she was thinking refried beans weren't a good thing for your first night alone together
I thought it was a desert enchilada because of the whipped cream, with chocolate drops in the bowl.
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Did anyone notice that DeAnna didn't seem to eat much of her meal before they left for the suite? Either they did so much talking that she didn't have a chance to touch it, she doesn't care for mexican or she was thinking refried beans weren't a good thing for your first night alone together
Too, true! I hadn't even thought of that! I always think I wouldn't be able to eat because I'd be too nervous - or worried about spilling. Nothing like crumbs in the cleavage!
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Or perhaps their dinner wasn't that long...
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