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Old 10-28-2007, 06:27 PM   #51
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Re: Thoughts & Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** - Bachelor 11

Have any of you read the episode recap on abc.com for last week's episode....I think it is an interesting read. Deanna is not painted in the best of light - "DeAnna privately declares Kristy "no fun." and Bettina is completely torn apart - "Bettina watches her put on the gloves and behind her back, opines that Sheena's too young for marriage. " Read the recap - the F3 girls are given a snarky edit.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:34 PM   #52
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Have any of you read the episode recap on abc.com for last week's episode....I think it is an interesting read. Deanna is not painted in the best of light - "DeAnna privately declares Kristy "no fun." and Bettina is completely torn apart - "Bettina watches her put on the gloves and behind her back, opines that Sheena's too young for marriage. " Read the recap - the F3 girls are given a snarky edit.
Something bugging me from last episode was how he asks DeAnna if she thinks it's real. Says to me there's a doubt in his mind.
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We've heard that Brad states that F3 was the most difficult for him. Maybe that's because Jenni goes at F3. By the F3 RC, Brad knows it's going to be DeDe so he lets Jenni go to save her the pain / humiliation of rejection at the FRC.

Even though I am foremost a Jenni fan (with DeDe as a close 2nd) I think that this is what is going to happen.

Brad cares for Jenni but feels more for DeAnna so he lets her go at the F3 RC, hence the comments he made about ...The F3 was hardest RC, when it got to the F2 the decision was easy...

Supporting this is Bettina's beach shot and DeAnna's back walking out of the water for F2.. with DeAnna coming out as the winner, as we see with the FRC shot of her hands.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:38 PM   #54
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in I think - Germany - there is a politician who is trying to make marriage a 7 year contract that both parties have to choose to renew....
WOW!!! Sorry, I just HAVE to respond cause it struck me that the US is so well-informed about the plans of one really crazy German politician!!! Whenever I'm in the states, I don't hear much about German politics at all, so may I ask you where you heard that? It is true, there is a lady that's absolutely nuts and tried to "limit" marriage to seven years... the craziest thing about this is that the party this woman belongs to is called Christian Social Union... well, I just feel like I have to defend the Germans, we are not all that crazy. When they finally voted on her suggestion, the only vote in favor of it (out of about 200-300 votes) was her own... That's a couple of weeks ago, and by now, that politician is pretty much toast!
Not really on topic, I know, but I just had to throw that in...
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:40 PM   #55
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Snark at me, bark at me, bite at me but..........

I think DeAnna is too young and seems more like the girls that hang out at Brad's bar and tried to impress him with her language which many have said was off. Don't speak Greek so wouldn't know, but people on here that do have said it was bad.

Bettina, who I rooted for at the start is too puzzling and exorcist=ish to me. Waiting for the head to spin around. Don't think she could handle his life style of the bars and the women even though he does not get involved with the women but he, himself has said he is a touchy, feely kind of guy and gives hugs, etc., easily and she flips out when he does that on the show.

Jenni greeted him so openly and warmly from word go. She did nothing to try and impress him, she was just herself and he loved it enough to give her the first rose, the first kiss, a kiss every time he could after that and has whispered things to her too.

My take on the wild ending is Bettina having an even worse break down than Hillary and they have to stop the entire thing for awhile and shoot it two different days thus the night and day shots, etc. that you sleuthers have all been trying to figure out.
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A lot of times they mention the F3 as being particularly bad. I don't really understand why this is worse than F2. .

I think it's because he now spends so much more time with them. PRior to the fantasy dates, they are just spending some time together... over night is a lot longer and much more intimate. I mean if someone kicked me to the curb after spending the night together, I'd feel pretty crappy, so it must be pretty hard to be the kicker.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:41 PM   #57
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The more I think about things, the DeAnna negative edit was built in purely to cast doubt on the 2-1 date and to throw viewers off the scent a bit. My husband watches with me but doesn't visit the FORT or "sleuth" in any way. He was pretty convinced that DeAnna was F1 up until the negative stuff leading up to the 2-1 date, and then he switched to Jenni, where he's been ever since. I think Jenni has become the casual viewer's choice, which means she is NOT F1. (Whoever said she is being groomed to be the next B'ette, on the other hand, is really onto something.) Bettina's edit has become negative too late in the game for her to get the redemption arc -- and there's no way someone who says "slut and a liar" about one of the F3 is going to end up the winner here. Whether she said it or not, Fleiss edited it that way and that means she's not the one -- even without any bumps in the road on the hometown or fantasy dates.

So, I think the winner is DeAnna. Which is cool with me -- I don't really have a favorite this season, but she seems like a nice girl and I bet she'd fit nicely into Brad's life (since you know, in Fleiss's alternate universe it's always the woman who has to change her life around for the man ).
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Something bugging me from last episode was how he asks DeAnna if she thinks it's real. Says to me there's a doubt in his mind.

She bats her eyelashes like crazy he must ask if she thinks it is real. I dont believe her just something about her that I cant put my finger on. She does have her game face on.
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We have caps on the Fantasy dates with both Jenni and DeAnna in the room with Brad. Are there any of Bettina in a room with Brad?
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:46 PM   #60
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Of course there was always Andy who said to Bevin, "This isn't a rejection " and "I love you" at the FRC as he let her go.
Didn't he also say something like, "This is, like, the finest line between love . . . and love"? I really respected Bevin for the way she handled that whole ridiculous exchange. I expect better things from Brad -- he doesn't suffer from the same pathological need to be liked by everyone.
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