Editing: Is Fleiss messing with us regarding the editing? **SPOILERS**

[onlyme]

I don't know if this belongs in this thread but here goes...

I am a huge Tessa fan too...but I am starting to feel sorry for Bevin. It seems like so many people are for Tessa that the Bevin fans maybe don't feel like posting.....I am hoping that Bevin just got a bad edit...well enough said...this should probably be in the general comment thread...sorry....I am firmly in the hammock.......

[talldede]

I don't know if this belongs in this thread but here goes...

I am a huge Tessa fan too...but I am starting to feel sorry for Bevin. It seems like so many people are for Tessa that the Bevin fans maybe don't feel like posting.....I am hoping that Bevin just got a bad edit...well enough said...this should probably be in the general comment thread...sorry....I am firmly in the hammock.......

I'll answer you in the general comment thread onlyme. Follow me.

Edited to add, I can't, that thread is closed. Hmmmm......

[echo226]

Wow. The military is using reality programming. Not bad.

Why not ? Some of these shows have the audience demographic they'd like to reach. American Idol boasts Millions of viewers.

I don't necessarily think the Navy or Marines are actively looking among their ranks for people who are a reality fit and sending them to auditions, but certainly if someone has the desire and talent ... it gives the military some positive breadth in these troubling times.

Again, I'm sure your friend is correct in that the Navy in this instance has some voice in the character portrayal aka editing. Do you think perhaps the Navy had to approve prior to broadcast ? This could be why the editing, per your friend, is a "mess". Maybe the Navy asked them to omit some things after the wrap, and that's why it looks chopped and choppy in places.

[forestpal]

Really?!?!?

I would be more willing to accept the physical with Bevin if I were Tessa - he had to keep her around and kiss her - it is in his contract - I could seperate that he was an actor playing the part = and I don't see him revealing his soul to Bevin or chasing her

but with Tessa - their conversations are so deep -

If it were me - I think it would be easier to get over a physical connection vs an emotional one

I do think that Andy cares deeply for both of them - if I went into this situation I would think the healthiest way to look at it that most of us dated people before we got married = Andy just happened to be doing it at the same time - we all hit a point in a relationship where we have to choose if we want to be exclusive or break up -

the FRC is where he tells if he wants to be exclusive = and it is what happens after that point that must matter in your relationship - she knew prior to that they are not exclusive - but I would hate watching him date those others!!!

I was taking a liberty. I wasn't speaking as if I were applyint MY values, but rather as if I were applying what I perceived to be Bevin's values. I don't think she'd mind all the chatting between Andy and Tessa. She wouldn't get that it's more powerful than the sexuality she's made available. And I'm not saying she's made the ultimate sacrifice to Andy.

[cape]

I was taking a liberty. I wasn't speaking as if I were applyint MY values, but rather as if I were applying what I perceived to be Bevin's values. I don't think she'd mind all the chatting between Andy and Tessa. She wouldn't get that it's more powerful than the sexuality she's made available. And I'm not saying she's made the ultimate sacrifice to Andy.

I see what you mean!! I agree with that assessment!

BTW - did you all see the latest screencap - the Kayak seems to have taken on a lot of water - the cap is pretty convincing that it is in fact the ring box on the table while Tessa is hugging Andy - Armywife just posted it in the screencap only thread

[happysammy]

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. I've watched that exact thing over and over again. I'm the last person to claim any expertise on editing...however, I'm convinced that her response ("I would love nothing more...") came directly after Andy's question. I think the "I don't know" came from another part of their conversation and was just editing to inject doubt.

JMHO.

Actually, I thought that "I don't know" was probably her first response and they had to stop and explain to her that it didn't mean they were going to necessarilly sleep together. The way the card is phrased is "spend the night as a couple", which is pretty suggestive. Considering how reticent she is, "I don't know" makes perfect sense. Once the producers tell her it's not what it sounds like but makes for good TV and you can leave anytime, she would say absolutely.

[hayleysmommy]

I am in the hammock because of the editing! I didn't have a favorite until the Tessa/Peyton/Andy date. Tessa has been edited so beautifully. I really want to meet her..LOL! Anyway, I can't see Lt./ Dr. Andy end up with the girl with the questionable edit. My question is why is it that it is deemed impossible that F1 is on the left?? I get that "it's always done this way", but isn't it possible that since this is a different type of bachelor, a different kind of story.. that maybe things MIGHT be different in positioning???

I asked my husband what a "guys" love story is. He said men love to chase a woman.. they want a challenge. I have to say I was a challenge to my husband. We broke up after I fired off an ultimatum. LOL. He proposed.. I said "little too late pal!!" He pursued me with a passion that I didn't know he was capable of. We were engaged 6 months later married 10 months after that. We will be married (w/ 2 kids) 10 years next month. He brought this up to me again tonight. He told me when he realized I was it.. he knew and had to do what he had to. LOL. He is still quite sweet..

I am firmly on the hammock.. I don't care about positioning.. I care about the love story I saw ( from a man's POV) and the dogtags, the sunsets and the body language. That is what I saw based on the editing I saw this season.
Sorry so long.. I'm just going crazy reading about positioning.. I think we saw what we saw this season.. because TPTB are trying (and succeeded) to save their show! I think I need for this show to be over..LOL!!!

[forestpal]

Why not ? Some of these shows have the audience demographic they'd like to reach. American Idol boasts Millions of viewers.

I don't necessarily think the Navy or Marines are actively looking among their ranks for people who are a reality fit and sending them to auditions, but certainly if someone has the desire and talent ... it gives the military some positive breadth in these troubling times.

Again, I'm sure your friend is correct in that the Navy in this instance has some voice in the character portrayal aka editing. Do you think perhaps the Navy had to approve prior to broadcast ? This could be why the editing, per your friend, is a "mess". Maybe the Navy asked them to omit some things after the wrap, and that's why it looks chopped and choppy in places.

Gosh, that's a good question. Since I don't have my friend with me right now and it's very late where he is, I'll take a shot at the answer: I would think that Fleiss would be loathe to cede his creative rights to any group, including and maybe especially the Navy. Speaking of egos, Fleiss has a big one, too, and I imagine he trusts himself to please everyone he has to please. Yeah, the more I think of it, the surer I am that Fleiss would protect his creative rights.

[Navywife23]

I don't know if this belongs in this thread but here goes...

I am a huge Tessa fan too...but I am starting to feel sorry for Bevin. It seems like so many people are for Tessa that the Bevin fans maybe don't feel like posting.....I am hoping that Bevin just got a bad edit...well enough said...this should probably be in the general comment thread...sorry....I am firmly in the hammock.......

I think that is exactly what the problem is, it's like a sin around here to favor Bevin. I guess all of us will get the last laugh tomorrow

[forestpal]

I see what you mean!! I agree with that assessment!

BTW - did you all see the latest screencap - the Kayak seems to have taken on a lot of water - the cap is pretty convincing that it is in fact the ring box on the table while Tessa is hugging Andy - Armywife just posted it in the screencap only thread

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH. I'll go look.
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