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    Re: Is Fleiss & Co. messing with us regarding the editing? **SPOILERS**

    IMO Fleiss has been waiting for Andy all his "life"! Andy has lived up to his billing , seems to have taken all of this serious, truly seems to want to find the love of his life( i hope he has in Tessa). I found him different too in that he gave SQT to ladies he had doubts about rather then his favorites and has basically done things as a process of elimination early on.

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    Re: Is Fleiss & Co. messing with us regarding the editing? **SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Schooner;2363594;
    If my memory serves me correctly, I remember them going out 1 night, fairly early on...I remember they were in an outdoor market or something, Chinese maybe, on one of those things you sit in and the guy runs and pulls it (can't for the life of me remember the name of them). Anyway, that stands out in my mind because Ian struck me from day 1, I loved him the second he walked up to her and introduced himself...and I noticed she was smitten too.
    Schooner, yes they did...I think they commented is was on that date that the connection started. What I meant in my post was Ian didn't have a one on one in the episode where there were only 6 people left (the one prior to the hometown dates).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jordan133;2364153;
    IMO Fleiss has been waiting for Andy all his "life"! Andy has lived up to his billing , seems to have taken all of this serious, truly seems to want to find the love of his life( i hope he has in Tessa). I found him different too in that he gave SQT to ladies he had doubts about rather then his favorites and has basically done things as a process of elimination early on.
    I competely agree. I'm impressed that Fleiss & Co rewarded him by giving him what appears to be a little more control later in the process. Allowing him to request Tessa for the Cinderella date; Allowing him to be a little more honest (unlike previous bachelors) about his feelings/objectives in his PI's before & after the dates. From all appearances, most of the PI's have matched the dates.

    Before his 1-1 with Tessa, Fleiss allows him to tells us that "tonight I need to convince her that I'm a man she wants". Fleiss then has a ball chopping up their conversations (he couldn't resist) but he let's him tells us the outcome: (Andy) "tonight, I achieved what I set out to do & now the sky's the limit".
    Fleiss let him say just enough to keep us guessing & probably enough to keep Andy happy. He didn't annouce his choice, just that an obstacle (Tessa's reluctance) was gone and now he could explore the connection to see if she's the one or not. So, the editing battle of the F2 is still viable and intact. Gotta love him, Fleiss knows his business!

    ETA: It's Tessa but Andy thinks we can't read between the lines (or glances/touches).
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    With everyone jumping on the Tessa for F1 bandwagon I'm starting to doubt it.

    We saw the connection to Bevin early on. Usually the early connection is brought back up for a couple episodes but it fades. They are not showing it fade. Why?

    The opposing ladies for F1/F2 must show a contrast of some kind for Fleiss to exploit. Bringing the romance of Tessa to the attention of the general viewer he has the classic physical attraction/risky choice vs perfect on paper/safe choice.


    Fleiss always wants a surprise ending. We already know there is an engagement so the only surprise left is who.

    Is Tessa being shown to us in such a big way to fool us??? or is she really F1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jordan133;2364153;
    IMO Fleiss has been waiting for Andy all his "life"!
    Well, at least his life since Trisket, lol! Yes, Fleiss and his evil minions hit a completely undeserved jackpot.

    I bet you could've knocked them over with a champagne cork when they realized they had true love (at long last) in Bachelordom. They must have been almost as ecstatic as Andy and Tessa.

    I really hope Tessa hates pink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truewriter;2364721;

    I really hope Tessa hates pink.

    I just spit out my beverage! Good one!

    I HOPE we get a televised wedding.....but I doubt the Navy will allow Andy any more time off....boo hoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynicgal;2364719;
    With everyone jumping on the Tessa for F1 bandwagon I'm starting to doubt it.

    We saw the connection to Bevin early on. Usually the early connection is brought back up for a couple episodes but it fades. They are not showing it fade. Why?

    The opposing ladies for F1/F2 must show a contrast of some kind for Fleiss to exploit. Bringing the romance of Tessa to the attention of the general viewer he has the classic physical attraction/risky choice vs perfect on paper/safe choice.


    Fleiss always wants a surprise ending. We already know there is an engagement so the only surprise left is who.

    Is Tessa being shown to us in such a big way to fool us??? or is she really F1
    Andy has mentioned many times that we are supposed to see the love story progress. I think that's the keyword - progress. With Bevin there was no buildup, it was an instantenous attraction thattook place on the Casino date.

    With Tessa she doubted herself and thought about leaving. Then came the 1 on 1 which was the "baby step" that somewhat (but not completely) solidified her decision to stay on the show. Now that is progression, and I think that's what the TPTB are making this season to be about.

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    Re: Is Fleiss & Co. messing with us regarding the editing? **SPOILERS**

    I read the posts and I don't think Schooner's question was answered: the vehicle you were speaking of, ridden in by Ian and Meredith, is a rickshaw or, in most English speaking countries, a "pedicab."

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    Quote Originally Posted by talldede;2364742;
    I just spit out my beverage! Good one!
    Lol! My pleasure, talldede.

    I actually hope we get a televised wedding, too. Someone needs to explain to Andy and Tessa that Fleiss owes us bigtime.
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    I’ve been reading the sleuthing posts on and off for about two weeks now and have finally decided to jump in. Hope I’m doing this right! Some of what I’ve wondered about has been discussed, but there are a few things I’m curious about that I don’t believe have been brought up.

    First, logistics. Does anyone know if the bachlorettes are given a recommended list of clothes to pack for the show and a clothing allowance for cocktail dresses and evening gowns (this alone much cost them a fortune and I imagine as ‘actors’ the producers could regarded this as a wardrobe allowance)? Does anyone know the rules about leaving the house, say for a run, or if they can bring books to read or watch TV? Their lives for the first month or more of filming seem so boring, but I imagine the lack of outside stimulation leaves them to stew in their own juices, which is probably was the producers desire. Also, are they fed by the caterers or do they make their own food?

    Re. Tessa getting a good edit: perhaps there’s nothing bad to eliminate from her tape. Perhaps she believes she should think the best of others and doesn’t snipe. Bevin has said so many things that were not nice about the other women that she’s clearly not just getting a bad edit. Then there’s Bevin’s comment that she deserves better (made in the kayak)! This comment and the comment about ‘she’s just asking for what she wants (paraphrased)’ are shades of modern psychoanalysis gone awry.

    I noticed that Tessa and Bevin were sharing a bedroom with Tina in the last episode. How uncomfortable for both of them!

    Originally Posted by Ms.Anthrope (330 under the Tessa thread)
    … She is actually an heiress, and her family is politically very well connected. I'm not talking about local congressman. I'm talking about 2 name brand high-profile politicians in the family! She went to top schools, but eventually chose to becomes a social worker. She was working with abused women before she quit after having kids. I always found her so interesting because she comes from such a prominent family with so much money.

    Re. the above post in the Tessa thread, does anyone actually know Tessa has her own money or will inherit lots of money; or, is this a really big assumption? (And, I’m confused about who had children; not Tessa I gather.)

    The brunettes were adorable cat napping on the yacht together. I think this might say volumes about how these three women are all interested in the same man but can be companionable with each other.

    I hope some really great men see this show and realize just how wonderful some of these women are, including Stephanie from Kansas, Danielle (I’ve been convinced that Tessa’s the one since their helicopter ride; Andy was just smitten with her), Tina and Peyton!
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