Bachelor 10, Part 4 - Spoilers & Screencap Analysis ONLY***SPOILERS*** - Page 17

qsg123 · 04-25-2007, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by winniechloe

I think the backpack girl looks like steph but you know what we are never going to see that screencap because half of the screencaps we have are never shown. So I say the new final two are tina and steph and fleiss has fooled us all........

Actually, this is a big possibility. Somehow, I cannot imagine calling Tina "baby" though:-)))))
I was thinking of Stephanie still, why did Andy make that remark about the family? It did not belong there.
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qsg123 · 04-25-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aphijess

In addition to what the previous poster said about there being two different kayaking rides with Andy and Bevin, the sleuthers found a perfect match for the second trip, which is at the Princeville Resort in Hawaii (which is also the location where the leaked video was shot).

The best way to deal with this Bevin situation: pack all the other girls, and send them home. Bevin is everywhere:-))))
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qsg123 · 04-25-2007, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Justwatching2

Rewatching episodes and given past Bachelor shows, I think Danielle is definetly the winner.

I think she has already his word - that is why she is not worried about too much.
Somehow I just cannot shake that feeling.
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Lizmoe · 04-25-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by qsg123

Actually, this is a big possibility. Somehow, I cannot imagine calling Tina "baby" though:-)))))
I was thinking of Stephanie still, why did Andy make that remark about the family? It did not belong there.
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Hi, I have been reading and reading and you guys are amazing with all the information you have come up with. How come most of you have ruled Stephanie out?

sueb1961 · 04-25-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lizmoe

Hi, I have been reading and reading and you guys are amazing with all the information you have come up with. How come most of you have ruled Stephanie out?

Because of screencaps, previews, and detailed description of upcoming shows. The dates are matched with who has what dates for f3 and f2 dates by the sceencaps

mountaineer · 04-25-2007, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by giggletink17

Just a bit of information in solving this Luckenbooth mystery at the FRC that you might find very interesting:
Bevin is a name of Gaelic origin. Gaelic is an English word for any of three languages which form one half of the Celtic language family group. The three Gaelic languages are Irish, Manx, and *behold* Scottish.
Perhaps this is a sign that Bevin is F1???? Quite possible

In Andy's brother's wedding pictures (which I felt a little bit creepy looking through... like I was invading someone's personal privacy... but I guess that's what you do when you're a super sneaky sleuth

), there was a guest dressed in full Scottish attire, kilt and all. I'm guessing Andy's family is Scottish and that's where the Luckenbooth comes in.

As much as I'm trying to keep an open mind about all of the girls, I'm realizing more and more that I really want Tessa to be the F1. I am sure I would like Danielle and Stephanie, too, but their "no-edit" is making it hard to root for them. And I'm sure Bevin is great as well, but her "bad edit" is working for me. I just haven't seen meaningful conversation between them and that's making it harder for me to pull for her.

Who was the voice expert on the Part 3 thread? I need you to listen to Andy's Loveline interview and tell me whether the third caller (around 13 minutes into the show) might be Tessa. There's something about the question she asks and the way she's talking with Andy (kind of a playful banter) that makes me suspect it might be her.

Oh, and a special hello to Andy's, Tessa's, Bevin's, Danielle's, etc. personal friends and family. I have a relative who is subject to message board discussion from time to time, and we all get a kick out of reading things being said about him (when it's good, that is).

So I know at least some of you are out there!

And seriously, I cannot explain why I am this into The Bachelor this season. I think I'm in need of psychiatric evaluation (especially after spending 1/2 hour looking through a stranger's wedding pictures... what's wrong with me?!?!). I'm just glad to know I'm not alone! See you all in the psych ward...

Kikora · 04-25-2007, 03:52 AM

So I was thinking about this discussion about Bevin's ankle and the apparently primarily physical (and i don't mean her and Andy! LOL!) activities that seem to be ALL she does if the F2/F3 dates it appears are her really are.

And I was thinking about how Fleiss is showing her (by many standards) in a largely less than flattering way, and like someone pointed out, that's rather odd if you finally have a winner and want everyone to cheer at the end.

We KNOW there's at least one less physical F3 (the catamaran) so it's not like Fleiss couldn't come up with anything for them to do in Hawaii that wasn't as physical (heck, why not "scuba" dive/massage like PLo did with Sadie last time?).

Yet we also KNOW from that leaked video (which I saw thanks to ArmyWife last week!) that there seems to be little way to get around Bevin HAVING to have been on the waterfall jump/kayak/cow date thing. So we KNOW her F3 WAS the non-less physical one. And it looks PROBABLE that the chopper/backpack hike will be found to be her also (though I still think thre are some possible ways around that besides what's been suggested, but I'll leave that for now).

Even if her ankle was feeling better, it seems really odd that they'd even RISK something happening to her ankle that would exacerbate it further (that'd only cause problems for them down the road...especially since she alluded to having hurt it before immediately when it happens). What producers would want to open themselves up to that, when all of the viewing audience saw the initial injury happen not that many weeks earlier...AND how much it appeared to impact her at various points in time following that.

Why not give her at least ONE of the F3/F2 that wasn't as physical (aka the boat which was done or a new idea)? ESPECIALLY if they'd seen she was clearly appearing (whether totally genuine or not) upset about how it was holding her back and how she was feeling?

An intentional set up to TRY to get her to shoot herself in the foot (no pun intended) with Andy? Or to make her look bad to viewers? Those don't make sense if she's the winner...why do that?

Why risk the chance of further injury and open themselves up for problems even if she's sure she's fine? (And didn't someone post in the last thread something about her maybe needing surgery and ankle related stuff being on her myspace or in an article? A RECENT one?)

Why wouldn't ANDY, who was after her about shoes/heels/taking it easy lobby for her to have at least ONE of the slightly less physical things (b/c if she is F2, odds were then he really was as taken with her from the start and it was nearly inevitable she'd have a second Hawaii date)? HE'S a doctor and potentially in love with her and wanting the best for her, and heels and putting strain on it wasn't his top choice from what we saw so far. Would HE really want her doing all that if he was so into her? Lower key (especially since they like to be so physical) would be easier doing more 'hanging out' than hiking or jumping in waterfalls or in kayaks anyway.

I'm not saying I think that necessarily changes what she does or doesn't do F2/F3 if that's her, but........to me that makes it even more unlikely she'd be F1, and that it may leave the door open for there being something we're still not seeing, as much as it seems almost crystal clear to the point of F2.

GoTessa21 · 04-25-2007, 05:20 AM

I used to work for a viral marketing company. It wouldn't be surprising if ABC actually allowed Bevin to put that video on her MySpace. And even if ABC didn't plant that video as a "viral" ploy for the show...if Bevin were F1 -- she'd be a lot more careful than that since the winner has so much more to lose than the losers.

I hope it's not Danielle. I think the whole "psychic" thing is kinda creepy...I would think they'd give us more to hook us onto her.

Di24 · 04-25-2007, 05:55 AM

Okay. I tried, but I couldn't stand it. Had to join so I could throw my baggage on the Tessa train. Sure hope she wins.

One note I haven't really seen mentioned, and I'm pretty sure I've read all the hours worth of pages on this site. I felt like not only Andy's expressions when he and Tessa had their porch time discussion before Mondays RC said something important, but the thing that really got me was his expression afterward when he said how it drained him but it was totally worth it. He looked darn near dreamy. So far I haven't seen that look on his face for anyone else.

I'm going with the contingent that thinks final two are Bevin/Tessa.

drewmatt · 04-25-2007, 06:55 AM

You veterans may have an answer to this... There are many pictures that are easily identifiable as Bevin & Tessa being F1 / F2. I've seen many mentions that Fleiss likes to "play games". Maybe Fleiss has deliberately put pictures of B & T out there to throw everyone off. The final walk picture of Amber is easily recognizable so we know she's F4. There is still debate on who the last finalist is. Could TPTB done that on purpose - may this 4th person is really F1. Just a thought - seems strange to me that there's one that is creating a huge debate while the others are fairly obvious.

04-25-2007, 03:52 AM	#167
Kikora FORT Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 663	Re: Bachelor 10, Part 4 - Spoilers, Speculation & Screencaps *SPOILERS* So I was thinking about this discussion about Bevin's ankle and the apparently primarily physical (and i don't mean her and Andy! LOL!) activities that seem to be ALL she does if the F2/F3 dates it appears are her really are. And I was thinking about how Fleiss is showing her (by many standards) in a largely less than flattering way, and like someone pointed out, that's rather odd if you finally have a winner and want everyone to cheer at the end. We KNOW there's at least one less physical F3 (the catamaran) so it's not like Fleiss couldn't come up with anything for them to do in Hawaii that wasn't as physical (heck, why not "scuba" dive/massage like PLo did with Sadie last time?). Yet we also KNOW from that leaked video (which I saw thanks to ArmyWife last week!) that there seems to be little way to get around Bevin HAVING to have been on the waterfall jump/kayak/cow date thing. So we KNOW her F3 WAS the non-less physical one. And it looks PROBABLE that the chopper/backpack hike will be found to be her also (though I still think thre are some possible ways around that besides what's been suggested, but I'll leave that for now). Even if her ankle was feeling better, it seems really odd that they'd even RISK something happening to her ankle that would exacerbate it further (that'd only cause problems for them down the road...especially since she alluded to having hurt it before immediately when it happens). What producers would want to open themselves up to that, when all of the viewing audience saw the initial injury happen not that many weeks earlier...AND how much it appeared to impact her at various points in time following that. Why not give her at least ONE of the F3/F2 that wasn't as physical (aka the boat which was done or a new idea)? ESPECIALLY if they'd seen she was clearly appearing (whether totally genuine or not) upset about how it was holding her back and how she was feeling? An intentional set up to TRY to get her to shoot herself in the foot (no pun intended) with Andy? Or to make her look bad to viewers? Those don't make sense if she's the winner...why do that? Why risk the chance of further injury and open themselves up for problems even if she's sure she's fine? (And didn't someone post in the last thread something about her maybe needing surgery and ankle related stuff being on her myspace or in an article? A RECENT one?) Why wouldn't ANDY, who was after her about shoes/heels/taking it easy lobby for her to have at least ONE of the slightly less physical things (b/c if she is F2, odds were then he really was as taken with her from the start and it was nearly inevitable she'd have a second Hawaii date)? HE'S a doctor and potentially in love with her and wanting the best for her, and heels and putting strain on it wasn't his top choice from what we saw so far. Would HE really want her doing all that if he was so into her? Lower key (especially since they like to be so physical) would be easier doing more 'hanging out' than hiking or jumping in waterfalls or in kayaks anyway. I'm not saying I think that necessarily changes what she does or doesn't do F2/F3 if that's her, but........to me that makes it even more unlikely she'd be F1, and that it may leave the door open for there being something we're still not seeing, as much as it seems almost crystal clear to the point of F2. Last edited by Kikora; 04-25-2007 at 04:08 AM. Reason: Edited to add

04-25-2007, 05:20 AM	#168
GoTessa21 FORT Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2	Re: Bachelor 10, Part 4 - Spoilers, Speculation & Screencaps *SPOILERS* I used to work for a viral marketing company. It wouldn't be surprising if ABC actually allowed Bevin to put that video on her MySpace. And even if ABC didn't plant that video as a "viral" ploy for the show...if Bevin were F1 -- she'd be a lot more careful than that since the winner has so much more to lose than the losers. I hope it's not Danielle. I think the whole "psychic" thing is kinda creepy...I would think they'd give us more to hook us onto her.

04-25-2007, 05:55 AM	#169
Di24 FORT Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: VA Posts: 256	Re: Bachelor 10, Part 4 - Spoilers, Speculation & Screencaps *SPOILERS* Okay. I tried, but I couldn't stand it. Had to join so I could throw my baggage on the Tessa train. Sure hope she wins. One note I haven't really seen mentioned, and I'm pretty sure I've read all the hours worth of pages on this site. I felt like not only Andy's expressions when he and Tessa had their porch time discussion before Mondays RC said something important, but the thing that really got me was his expression afterward when he said how it drained him but it was totally worth it. He looked darn near dreamy. So far I haven't seen that look on his face for anyone else. I'm going with the contingent that thinks final two are Bevin/Tessa.

04-25-2007, 06:55 AM	#170
drewmatt FORT Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 283	Re: Bachelor 10, Part 4 - Spoilers, Speculation & Screencaps *SPOILERS* You veterans may have an answer to this... There are many pictures that are easily identifiable as Bevin & Tessa being F1 / F2. I've seen many mentions that Fleiss likes to "play games". Maybe Fleiss has deliberately put pictures of B & T out there to throw everyone off. The final walk picture of Amber is easily recognizable so we know she's F4. There is still debate on who the last finalist is. Could TPTB done that on purpose - may this 4th person is really F1. Just a thought - seems strange to me that there's one that is creating a huge debate while the others are fairly obvious.