**Spoilers** **Speculation** Analysis of Bachelor 8 Part 3 - Page 14

Rockza · 02-14-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MsFroggy

Since I already have a nice bouquet curtesy of MrFroggy, I just took a rose out to measure the length of the stem: 17" from the bud. Makes the rose-in-Moana's-hand theory very plausible.

I was gonna say, these roses they get, easily looks well over 15" in length with stems

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n2shabbychic · 02-14-2006, 02:26 PM

There is no way that ABC would let us see anyone with the rose, even if they feel it's "hidden". Furthermore, this is not a rose, I'm pretty sure it's Travis' ear. That "green line" that I think you are seeing as a stem, is actually not a line, it's part of the mantle.

angelic_one2002 · 02-14-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Krom

That is indeed the more compelling argument, although I suppose counter arguments could summoned to explain it away. I'm almost positive that the rose isn't on that table in that shot with Moana. Of course it could also be argued that it wouldn't be there anymore if he'd already given it to another woman.

The bachelor/ette who wins, is always brought out last. They usually tell the first one goodbye..saving winner for last.

Pansygirl · 02-14-2006, 02:29 PM

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See my post #120 for the discusion of the table angle - it is not the same angle.

Plus I believe that this is the goodbye picture with Moana:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/ep7-1/bachep7-59.jpg

The following two pics are the first greeting:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/ep7-1/bachep7-55.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/ep7-1/bachep7-63.jpg

You can see that the backgound of the first and second picture are different. Plus in the first picture you can see some type of hurricane lamp which is nowhere in site in the third picture in the room where the rose is given out. Therefore I believe that first picture takes place in another romm on the way out. Its not a particularly warm hug here - I think its the goodbye hug after he has rejected her.

great job!

I had not noticed the hurricane lamp and I have strongly felt that this was not a winner's hug and kiss........on the cheek.........

Just my two cents.

Tinyrock11 · 02-14-2006, 02:31 PM

If that picture was of Moana holding a rose, why are they still hugging with Travis's hands on her hips? It just doesn't make sense. They would really be embracing one another if he had just given her the rose, not just barely hugging.

Krom · 02-14-2006, 02:34 PM

It does seem like that room has been seeded with red (and even some green) to help mislead us!

Brightcryptic · 02-14-2006, 02:35 PM

Look at the candles and the fire here:

The fire in the fireplace with Moana is a new fire, it's barely burned the logs. The candles on the back of the mantle are taller than they are with Sarah.

The fire that they're showing with Sarah has been burning longer, and is burning more of the logs than the fire with Moana. Sarah is the later arrival. They have the runner-up come in first, and the "winner" (I hate that term for this) come in second so they can spend the rest of the night together. The winner stands to the right of the screen, the runner-up stands to the left.

Now look at the plants here:

It's behind Moana's left here, is it the same one that's behind Travis in this shot?

I can tell by the way they've edited the story, and the way these pictures came out that Sarah without a doubt is the woman who gets the final rose.

Igotalife · 02-14-2006, 02:37 PM

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Where the circle is drawn on this photo, I keep seeing Moana's poof of her hairline, not a rose. Also hard to see, is her thumb ring which she wears on her left hand...if we can't see thumb ring, how would we see a rose with this blown up pixel?

BlondieGal · 02-14-2006, 02:37 PM

I agree with what you are seeing Brightcryptic!

The fire does look more intense, thus been lit longer, and the candles to the left on the mantle are lower.

Rockza · 02-14-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinyrock11

If that picture was of Moana holding a rose, why are they still hugging with Travis's hands on her hips? It just doesn't make sense. They would really be embracing one another if he had just given her the rose, not just barely hugging.

Maybe because it is a still shot?

02-14-2006, 02:34 PM	#136
Krom Fool... but no pity. Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 20,004	It does seem like that room has been seeded with red (and even some green) to help mislead us! __________________ For the funniest T Commercial Ever? -- YOUTUBE Search for the phrase Mr. T: The "T" in I.T.

02-14-2006, 02:37 PM	#139
BlondieGal Fort Blondie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scotland Yards Posts: 5,973	I agree with what you are seeing Brightcryptic! The fire does look more intense, thus been lit longer, and the candles to the left on the mantle are lower. __________________ The seat of knowledge is in the head, of wisdom, in the heart ~ William Hazlitt

02-14-2006, 02:31 PM	#135
Tinyrock11 FORT Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59	If that picture was of Moana holding a rose, why are they still hugging with Travis's hands on her hips? It just doesn't make sense. They would really be embracing one another if he had just given her the rose, not just barely hugging.

02-14-2006, 02:35 PM	#137
Brightcryptic Engaged! July 2009 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,443	Look at the candles and the fire here: The fire in the fireplace with Moana is a new fire, it's barely burned the logs. The candles on the back of the mantle are taller than they are with Sarah. The fire that they're showing with Sarah has been burning longer, and is burning more of the logs than the fire with Moana. Sarah is the later arrival. They have the runner-up come in first, and the "winner" (I hate that term for this) come in second so they can spend the rest of the night together. The winner stands to the right of the screen, the runner-up stands to the left. Now look at the plants here: It's behind Moana's left here, is it the same one that's behind Travis in this shot? I can tell by the way they've edited the story, and the way these pictures came out that Sarah without a doubt is the woman who gets the final rose.