So . . . what do you think about a TWIST? **SPOILERS** - Page 3

Nomadgal · 02-12-2006, 06:23 PM

I know I'm not supposed to post 2 in a row, but I wanted to add this to the "twist" speculation. A couple of weeks ago, Moana had the following poem on her blog:

"Nothing Gold Can Stay" - Robert Frost
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leafs a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

I remember it because it's one of my favorites. Anyway, I went back the next day and it was gone. I have no idea why she would post it and then take it down or if it has anything to do with this show, but given this new theory, could it mean her relationship is over? hmmmmmm!

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RandalR · 02-12-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomadgal

I know I'm not supposed to post 2 in a row, but I wanted to add this to the "twist" speculation. A couple of weeks ago, Moana had the following poem on her blog:

"Nothing Gold Can Stay" - Robert Frost
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leafs a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

I remember it because it's one of my favorites. Anyway, I went back the next day and it was gone. I have no idea why she would post it and then take it down or if it has anything to do with this show, but given this new theory, could it mean her relationship is over? hmmmmmm!

I suspect a critical analysis of Moana's tastes in poetry would not only fail to shed any light on her fate on "The Bachelor", but would in fact drive three-quarters of the posters at FORT into emotional instability themselves.

Truewriter · 02-12-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomadgal

In one of Mochelatte's posts, she says "I hope that the real-life ending is as satisfying as the tv ending", which made me think that Moana may be chosen and that they are still together.

Also, this could be why we haven't heard about an ATFR. They don't want it to look like another Jen or they could be trying to figure out how to spin it. Thanks, Truewriter! You've made me happy about this again. I was losing hope that it would be Sarah!!

You're welcome!

Mochelatte seems to imply quite a few interesting things that may put Moana on the hot seat with ABC. She sounds like a nice person, but for someone outside the family, she seems to know alot of behind-the-scenes info and innocently (I believe) says pretty much anything that pops into her head. Example: There's a story behind the story. (implication, it's ongoing.)

Well, if Moana's family friend is posting about another, ongoing story . . . who is the one telling them all about it?

(Shhhhhh . . . be quiet Moana; stop posting Mochelatte)

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Originally Posted by Nomadgal

I know I'm not supposed to post 2 in a row, but I wanted to add this to the "twist" speculation. A couple of weeks ago, Moana had the following poem on her blog:

"Nothing Gold Can Stay" - Robert Frost
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leafs a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

I remember it because it's one of my favorites. Anyway, I went back the next day and it was gone. I have no idea why she would post it and then take it down or if it has anything to do with this show, but given this new theory, could it mean her relationship is over? hmmmmmm!

Beautiful poem, could be someting to it . . . Moana seems to use poetry (good and bad) to express her feelings so it's not much of a stretch to think it may describe her circumstances. Speculation . . . but could be true.

(And I know what you mean about the double posts--I feel like I'm always talkin' to myself!)

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Originally Posted by RandalR

I suspect a critical analysis of Moana's tastes in poetry would not only fail to shed any light on her fate on "The Bachelor", but would in fact drive three-quarters of the posters at FORT into emotional instability themselves.

Hah--true most of the time but not when it comes to Robert Frost!

otter9 · 02-12-2006, 07:26 PM

Hey guys i'm new to this its my first post but i was watching the video that shows the helicopter at the end and travis saying that he hopes that the girl he sends home is alright but unfortunately he doesn't have the luxury of knowing if she is. (I think this video was called FRC) i'm not sure where it is posted. If it was Sarah that was sent home couldn't he just ask her at a later date if she is ok since they are from the same hometown?

vicyn8 · 02-12-2006, 07:28 PM

A twist unpredicted by Fleiss - how lovely and rewarding to presume a jester entered his court and was under estimated. Havoc in Fleissdom

I do like your theory and it does bring some logic to what has otherwise become innane. I've found that as the epis progress, the plot is looking more like a parody. The lengths that are being stretched to cariciture the stereotypes of the b-ettes are bordering on sad.

I buy the twist theory. I've no idea what that twist is but don't discount the idea that he revisits someone after the FRC and that, thinking outside the box, that someone could be outside of the final 2.
Now that would fit the "went all the way to Paris" irony and load the payback gun with barbs.

As to poetry interpretation: did Sarah S wear one of her gold dresses near the time the poem was posted?

Greeneyespy · 02-12-2006, 07:28 PM

Is it possible he didn't CHOOSE YET and is pulling a Charlie and dating them both....

Brightcryptic · 02-12-2006, 07:44 PM

Was just reading through Moche's posts again and this is what she says about the "twist":

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Interestingly enough, the producers had thought after the casting that certain matches would be "perfect" but ultimately Travis mades his own decisions. Up until the very last day of shooting in Paris, everything thought he was going to pick a particular lady, but in the end, didn't. Who would have thought? For many behind the scenes reasons, he made a last minute decision that left everyone with their mouths hanging open. Only time will tell if he made the "right" decision.

wooh_okk · 02-12-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Greeneyespy

Is it possible he didn't CHOOSE YET and is pulling a Charlie and dating them both....

I think ur right...There havent been many pictures on the FRC and the rumors of him being seen with Moana and Sarah.

Nomadgal · 02-12-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vicyn8

A twist unpredicted by Fleiss - how lovely and rewarding to presume a jester entered his court and was under estimated. Havoc in Fleissdom

I do like your theory and it does bring some logic to what has otherwise become innane. I've found that as the epis progress, the plot is looking more like a parody. The lengths that are being stretched to cariciture the stereotypes of the b-ettes are bordering on sad.

I buy the twist theory. I've no idea what that twist is but don't discount the idea that he revisits someone after the FRC and that, thinking outside the box, that someone could be outside of the final 2.
Now that would fit the "went all the way to Paris" irony and load the payback gun with barbs.

As to poetry interpretation: did Sarah S wear one of her gold dresses near the time the poem was posted?

I think I saw it about 2 weeks ago, so that may have been around the time she wore the gold dress on the yacht. I think I know where you are going with this and it is interesting theory, but I don't know why Moana would have posted it one day and removed it the next. You have to go way out there (as we tend to do here, and in Moana's case, we are probably justified in doing so) to see that she may be talking about Sarah. Plus, there are things still on her blog that are much more obvious than that. The poem "The Invitation" could easily be directed towards Travis as well as the song lyrics that she posts.
I think that she does gets picked from many different things I've seen. For one, she posts in December to a friend "Well I sure as hell loved their country and it seemed to love me...". Given that she also didn't get along with the girls, I don't think she would have loved France if she got dumped, especially as emotionally invested as she appears to be in Travis. However, Travis has been very vague in his interviews lately (from what I've seen) so maybe there are some problems there. Who knows? I'm loving this twist theory though!!

Greeneyespy · 02-12-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wooh_okk

I think ur right...There havent been many pictures on the FRC and the rumors of him being seen with Moana and Sarah.

Thing is.....last week on the ABC board..now we all KNOW how reliable that is...but it was said he was seen having lunch with Susan.....I am really wondering now...if he does cut Sarah this week and Susan and Moana are the final two but he realizes he made a mistake and then goes to Sarah after it is over with....could this be the big twist and why we haven't seen anything of the FRC yet....usually we have something by now...and this is the first time I can remember them putting a lid so tight on what is happening

02-12-2006, 07:26 PM	#24
otter9 FORT Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1	just an idea Hey guys i'm new to this its my first post but i was watching the video that shows the helicopter at the end and travis saying that he hopes that the girl he sends home is alright but unfortunately he doesn't have the luxury of knowing if she is. (I think this video was called FRC) i'm not sure where it is posted. If it was Sarah that was sent home couldn't he just ask her at a later date if she is ok since they are from the same hometown?

02-12-2006, 06:23 PM	#21
Nomadgal FORT Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 69	I know I'm not supposed to post 2 in a row, but I wanted to add this to the "twist" speculation. A couple of weeks ago, Moana had the following poem on her blog: "Nothing Gold Can Stay" - Robert Frost Nature's first green is gold, Her hardest hue to hold. Her early leafs a flower; But only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to leaf. So Eden sank to grief, So dawn goes down to day. Nothing gold can stay. I remember it because it's one of my favorites. Anyway, I went back the next day and it was gone. I have no idea why she would post it and then take it down or if it has anything to do with this show, but given this new theory, could it mean her relationship is over? hmmmmmm!

02-12-2006, 07:28 PM	#25
vicyn8 FORT Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 448	A twist unpredicted by Fleiss - how lovely and rewarding to presume a jester entered his court and was under estimated. Havoc in Fleissdom I do like your theory and it does bring some logic to what has otherwise become innane. I've found that as the epis progress, the plot is looking more like a parody. The lengths that are being stretched to cariciture the stereotypes of the b-ettes are bordering on sad. I buy the twist theory. I've no idea what that twist is but don't discount the idea that he revisits someone after the FRC and that, thinking outside the box, that someone could be outside of the final 2. Now that would fit the "went all the way to Paris" irony and load the payback gun with barbs. As to poetry interpretation: did Sarah S wear one of her gold dresses near the time the poem was posted?

02-12-2006, 07:28 PM	#26
Greeneyespy FORT Fogey Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Can you SMELLLLLLLLL what Gina is pouting about? Age: 42 Posts: 980	Is it possible he didn't CHOOSE YET and is pulling a Charlie and dating them both....