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[TNmomof4]

I agree Hot Mamma! Skip knew exactlly what conclusions would be drawn from the comments made on the HSN show and message board. If Lorenzo and Jen were still together he would have clarified that. He's never even mentioned Jen. That says something right there. And imo Sadie would not be getting cozy with Lorenzo's family if Jen were still in the picture. Yes, she's a mature girl with a good head on her shoulders but I'm sure she would draw the line there. I would imagine that Lorenzo and Sadie are not a "couple" but possibly just exploring the possiblility.

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[HotMomma]

Originally Posted by TNmomof4

I agree Hot Mamma! Skip knew exactlly what conclusions would be drawn from the comments made on the HSN show and message board. If Lorenzo and Jen were still together he would have clarified that. He's never even mentioned Jen. That says something right there. And imo Sadie would not be getting cozy with Lorenzo's family if Jen were still in the picture. Yes, she's a mature girl with a good head on her shoulders but I'm sure she would draw the line there. I would imagine that Lorenzo and Sadie are not a "couple" but possibly just exploring the possiblility.

I agree with you. I did see Lo and his mom earlier this month on HSN and it was odd when colleen the host mention to amada about palm reading all she said was that she had fun on the show and hoped that Lo did. she pretty much cut colleen off.

now a couple weeks later skip chats with colleen and talks about Sadie! which I didnt see them this time.

To me I think skip is trying to tell us something. B/C he didnt meet the girls in Rome.

[BlondieGal]

Originally Posted by jelle

This is a pretty big stretch without much evidence.


I agree. We are only shown the Fleiss Fairy Tale. Whatever the reality, it probably bears only a little resemblence to the show. And as you, I suspect, they are in "no comment" mode no matter what the situation.


I find this incredibly insulting and not very funny. Seems to be a terribly dishonest way to approach a relationship.


And like the comment from the women about seeing Lorz and Sadie together, what is the big deal of Sadie having dinner with his brother (and I suspect the family)? Obviously they remained friends and why would he not see her. I don't think this necessitates a breakup with Jenn and a budding romance.


I agree - he truly seemed distraught and perhaps he did have deep feelings, but .... Again - that doesn't mean a breakup with Jenn and a budding romance.

Anything is possible, but really .... If the pics on the beach were really as the "pal" claims, why haven't we heard more - someone is always ready to spill. And if Sadie and Lorz are a twosome - where are the pics? (Probably no one really cares ...) And why is anyone the bad guy in this? Everyone fulfilled their contractual obligations. Pretty much, they are free to do as they choose.

All well said Jelle! As true sleuthers, we look to facts as they are presented. Anything else is pure speculation.

[luvlady345]

Originally Posted by BlondieGal

All well said Jelle! As true sleuthers, we look to facts as they are presented. Anything else is pure speculation.

Let's see what we do have:

1 Pic of Jen in the NE with Dan
2 No denial from Jen
3 No comment on the relationship with Lo
4 Disappearance of the couple

1 Mention of Sadie and Lo spotted together in NYC
2 NY post printed story of the fact
3 Skip talking about a dinner with Sadie
4 No denial that Sadie and Lo are indeed together

anyone else want to add anything else and I almost forgot Hollywood news also carrying the story of the breakup and potenial Sadie and Lo relationship like I alway say where there is smoke there will be fire eventually....

[Brightcryptic]

The last actual comments from both Jen and Lorenzo were stating that they were in a relationship and figuring out if their love was an everlasting love. There is no indication other than a gossip rag's story (that was re-printed by a few outlets) about Jen not being with Lorenzo at this point, and no actual proof either way of the story's merit or truth.

The Post said that Sadie would be coming to NY, yet we already know that she's been in New York. The Post also had Jen dating an ex-boyfriend, while the NE had her dating a fellow teacher.

Hearsay we have indicates that Sadie's in a relationship with a man she knew in high school, hearsay also indicates that Jen and Lorenzo are still together and that Jen is still wearing his ring.

All we have at this point in time is hearsay and speculation, with regards to the status of relationships. The last official word from the horse's mouth was that Jen and Lorenzo are together. We have not gotten any concrete factual information since then to disprove that.

[BlondieGal]

Agreed Bright!

1 Pic of Jen in the NE with Dan ~ the picture was of Jen talking with a guy in a full leg cast. The two pictures did not indicate that of two people in a relationship. There are questions as to the date of this picture, as well as the legitimacy of this "source" and magazine.
2 No denial from Jen ~ ABC contracts dictate who they talk to
3 No comment on the relationship with Lo ~ see above
4 Disappearance of the couple ~ Lorenzo said in his interviews that he is ready to take the relationship private. His family has said that he is a private person. Do I think that Jen and Lo are still dating/in a relationship ~ I have absolutely no idea, but I agree that it does not look favorable.

1 Mention of Sadie and Lo spotted together in NYC ~ by a family eager to market their products and get people to "stay tuned."
2 NY post printed story of the fact ~ if you believe the NY Post Page Six regarding this item, then one must also believe all the other stories about Lorenzo flirting and romancing other women while the show was on. If I was a Sadie fan, I would think twice about wanting my girl mixed up with a romeo.
3 Skip talking about a dinner with Sadie ~ dinner okay, but nothing was said about dating or anything further. Anything else is speculation to correspond with #1 previously posted above.
4 No denial that Sadie and Lo are indeed together ~ ABC contracts dictate who they talk to.

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NY post printed story of the fact ~ if you believe the NY Post Page Six regarding this item, then one must also believe all the other stories about Lorenzo flirting and romancing other women while the show was on.

true, do i believe plo was flirting with other girls, you better believe i do

this guy has never been in this for the right reasons, i've said that since, episode 3 or 4 i think, it was just too obvious

[itsyourmom]

Originally Posted by TNmomof4

Skip knew exactlly what conclusions would be drawn from the comments made on the HSN show and message board. If Lorenzo and Jen were still together he would have clarified that.

I agree. My speculation is that Jen lost interest in Lorenzo and the brother is doing this to make Lorenzo look/feel better and to generate traffic to the HSN site. Of course, you have to scan all the product posts before you get to the Lorenzo/Sadie post, which is admittedly not very revealing. Here's why it interests me personally: I would actually like to see another couple fall in love, like Trista and Ryan. If it's Jenn and Lorenzo, great. If it's now Lorenzo and Sadie, I'll take that too. It completes the romance package. I will say that watching the finale again, L seemd very confident in his choice of Jenn, more than I thought on first viewing. But things change and we'll have to see what happens while we're waiting for the next season of The Bachelor.

[luvlady345]

Originally Posted by BlondieGal

Agreed Bright!

1 Pic of Jen in the NE with Dan ~ the picture was of Jen talking with a guy in a full leg cast. The two pictures did not indicate that of two people in a relationship. There are questions as to the date of this picture, as well as the legitimacy of this "source" and magazine.
2 No denial from Jen ~ ABC contracts dictate who they talk to
3 No comment on the relationship with Lo ~ see above
4 Disappearance of the couple ~ Lorenzo said in his interviews that he is ready to take the relationship private. His family has said that he is a private person. Do I think that Jen and Lo are still dating/in a relationship ~ I have absolutely no idea, but I agree that it does not look favorable.

1 Mention of Sadie and Lo spotted together in NYC ~ by a family eager to market their products and get people to "stay tuned."
2 NY post printed story of the fact ~ if you believe the NY Post Page Six regarding this item, then one must also believe all the other stories about Lorenzo flirting and romancing other women while the show was on. If I was a Sadie fan, I would think twice about wanting my girl mixed up with a romeo.
3 Skip talking about a dinner with Sadie ~ dinner okay, but nothing was said about dating or anything further. Anything else is speculation to correspond with #1 previously posted above.
4 No denial that Sadie and Lo are indeed together ~ ABC contracts dictate who they talk to.

I say all of this to point to the fact that, the boards were pretty evenly split on who they wanted Lo to end up with, so they could have easily said that all was well in Lo and Jen land and gotten the same effect from the viewers to stay tuned to there board and products...all most viewers of this show want is a happy ending regardless if it with either one of them........

[HotMomma]

Originally Posted by itsyourmom

I agree. My speculation is that Jen lost interest in Lorenzo and the brother is doing this to make Lorenzo look/feel better and to generate traffic to the HSN site. Of course, you have to scan all the product posts before you get to the Lorenzo/Sadie post, which is admittedly not very revealing. Here's why it interests me personally: I would actually like to see another couple fall in love, like Trista and Ryan. If it's Jenn and Lorenzo, great. If it's now Lorenzo and Sadie, I'll take that too. It completes the romance package. I will say that watching the finale again, L seemd very confident in his choice of Jenn, more than I thought on first viewing. But things change and we'll have to see what happens while we're waiting for the next season of The Bachelor.

My take after watching the show and the after the show interviews. is this. Lo at the time was happy with his choice JEn..However sometime during the actual showing the show. something changed.... THerefore so did the editing and thats why they played up how he couldnt chose. I feel with Travis season the same thing happened and thats why they edited out Travis telling sarah that he loved her. Does that make sense?