Ask me to show you poetry in motion, and I will show you a horse.
Oh, I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying we don't have the full story and we never will. We do know, from what we saw of Shawntel on the show and in TWTA, that this group can be quite catty when it perceives a threat.
From my own dating experiences, I don't think I'd particularly like a woman who could form the sorority mind-meld like so many appear to do on this show. If she were a little more mature (and I'm in my 40s, so she wouldn't be in my dating pool even if I appealed to models), I could easily see myself choosing a Courtney type over, let's say, the Kacie type. And that would have nothing to do with skinny-dipping (no one wants to see my hairy old ass).
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Just getting around to watching it today...since I was spoiled up to my eyeballs I knew how it would all turn out...that's why I didn't bother to watch the AFTR.
Not much to say about Lindzi and her date, since I knew it was all window dressing.I will say, though, that was it just me, or did Lindzi give the impression that she wasn't all that upset? Maybe I'm crazy, but I could swear there were a couple of times she wanted to laugh as she gave her post-proposal ITM's. Maybe in giddy relief to have this charade over with? I loved what a blogger said. "We've seen more emotion from some of the other women when they were eliminated after their dates." Absolutely true, so I have a feeling Lindzi was canny enough to know what would happen and just wanted to get it over with and get on with her life. I think Ben with his melodramatic sighs probably showed more emotion. Lindzi probably wanted to slap him and tell him to man up.
And speaking of blogs, this was just too good not to quote. It's a comment from a blog post.
Yeah, Lindzi was probably having a blast up there, knowing that she had "won" after all. It was probably more fun than most of what she had to put up with this season.So funny tonight…while watching the finale for Ben’s season my 7 year old nephew came walking in right when Lindsay was getting into the helicopter and said “They let them fly the helicopter after they get dumped?” I think that ABC should make that a rule from now on…you don’t get the final rose but you get to fly this helicopter!! I bet most would choose the helicopter then.
As for the other one...
When Courtney was petting that cat at the very beginning, I kept waiting for it to bite her.
When Ben and Courtney were alone on their final date, what was that clanging the background? Church bells? A firehouse? That was the second time that I wished Courtney would have turned into a toad.
Oh, and I loved it earlier when she said, "I feel so vulnerable right now (giggle, kiss)." That just about summed their entire relationship this season.
On the morning of the proposal, notice that Ben was bundled up in a parka, and yet Lindzi runs to her balcony in her pajamas? And Courtney wasn't wearing much else. That looked like a bathrobe. Geesh, they must have had some serious goosebumps. I know Courtney is used to having not much on, but Switzerland is a far cry from Puerto Rico.
As Neil Lane showed Ben those rings, did he really describe the first one as "organic"? What's an "organic diamond"? I just have this vision of diamonds growing among carrots and cabbages in long rows.
Yeah, Courtney's outfit made me think of Cruela De Ville. That or a dominatrix. To be fair, though, Lindzi's outfit wasn't much better. It made me think of a black ostrich.
For some strange reason, as Lindzi's helicopter arrived and they showed that shot of CH standing there looking solemn, my first thought was "Mafia guy."
Also for some strange reason, that little wooded proposal spot reminded me of a pagan shrine. Feel free to fill any jokes about maidens and sacrifices, because I'm too tired.
And now for a couple of serious points...
"Exciting...adventurous...myst erious." "Warm...genuine...glows from within." One of those is a wife, and the other is the Hollywood fantasy you drool over. You're supposed to grow up and realize which one would make a good real life relationship. The fact that Ben hasn't, and didn't, once again says everything about him. That, ladies and gentleman, is just sad.
Yes, Courtney. Slutty behavior and cheap gimmicks (like the babytalk and hair twirling) may have gotten you your man, but you got--Ben. I will be very surprised if you last until this summer. I, on the other hand, through adult conversations and high standards got my husband--eight years ago this summer.![]()
Maggie: "While she takes care of the men with the guns, why don't you sit down and I'll make you a nice, hot cup of tea?"
Pan Am stewardesses: prepared for anything!
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person
-Andy Rooney-
about feeling he was gullible, I think he said in ATFR explicitly that he wasn't being gullible.
The part I quoted, I agree with except for the part about a permanent relationship. I think this world view that they may share doesn't see relationships as guaranteed, ever. Maybe that's what you mean by both being ODD and italicizing permanent. My point is you don't need to NOT be seeking a permanent relationship in order to behave that way.
I also think that Ben is kinder (more considerate) of others' feelings, but maybe he appears that way to me because he is more articulate about his thought process.
I don't know those people, in the same way that I don't know Courtney (as I suspect most of here don't.) Some people will say/do just about anything for attention (that includes Courtney as well as people who purport to know her.) The truth of it is, none of us will ever know the whole truth about any of it, but all of us will choose what we believe or don't believe. I guess the psychology and speculation of it all is what keeps us coming here.
Her actions alone pretty much give credence to what has been said about her. If she were a girl scout, there would be people saying just that, yet there isn't. Sometimes what you read is the truth, and from what I've seen Courtney do, and what I've heard her say, I have no reason to believe she suddenly turned in to a bully the moment she entered the mansion.
Ask me to show you poetry in motion, and I will show you a horse.
Yeah but she wanted to be with them, so she had to play nice. It's just what we saw on the show, she was nice to Ben (to his face at least) but not the girls. You sure you aren't gonna watch Emily's season FM? I'm gonna miss you!! At least we still have American Idol and our giant though.![]()
Ask me to show you poetry in motion, and I will show you a horse.
But we're not seeing much. And the ones who are saying something are part of the sorority hive mind.
Doesn't it seem odd that so many of these men and women are willing to participate on a show like B-Pad, when ostensibly they were saying they were ready to settle down and get married when they signed up for Bachelor?
Not everything is what it appears to be in Fleissworld. Fasten your limousine seat belt and get ready for a bumpy ride if you cannot assimilate.
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