Elyse did NOT condemn others for their beliefs--just for their actions. There is a big difference between the two. I don't think she attacked anyone for what they believed in and if they knew what she thought of them that's fine. Not everyone will like each other. I don't remember her criticizing anyone for having different beliefs. If she threw her lack of religion in Robin's face I sure didn't see it. If Robin hadn't pushed the issue I don't think the fact that she is an atheist would have ever been mentioned. I don't think she was a peacekeeper but she sure kept her mouth shut a lot of times when she was pushed too far. She could have caused a lot more conflict and drama if she had wanted to but she was smart enough to walk away plenty of times.
Originally Posted by Carlylicious
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I agree with that...I can't understand why people did not see that..I mean I see good things in Elyse but she got an attitude too, and she herself felt like she was better..Even SHE admitted that she was condencing(sp) to people...Now she did improve, but still it was Robin and Elyse arguing, because she wanted to control where they wanted to go, and Robin was not having it...Robin was surprise that Elyse did not really like her, which I can understand, because when you spend that much time, you figure you have a kinship together even though you have your fights...
I disagree with that@breathless...It is your view, but she did say in confessional that she could not adjust to people because she was smarter than them, or that they believed in God...I don't hate Elyse by no means, but just as I am honest about Robin..people need to be honest about elyse
Exactly, breathless4975. She may be condescending but open-minded enough to know not to shove her opinions down everyone's throat.
Originally Posted by breathless4975
Again, I disagree.
Originally Posted by Deep Dish
Elyse was definitely critical of others for believing what they did, and what she considered to be 'ignorant'. She was not simply criticizing their behaviors. Both were happening. And I'm not combining the two, I do realize the difference! They're two separate things...
I realize that I'm not going to convince any of you who want to see it differently. This isn't a "pro Christian/anti Athiest" person speaking, I'm trying to be honest and balanced here. I'm challenging you to do the same.
I agree@Carly....that is what I am talking about...everyone is making Robin to be the bad girl and Elyse has an attitude too...Be objective...that is all I have been saying.
She was critical to the confessional camera. Behind their backs. In secret to Adrianne.
This may be small of her to do. You could say Robin was the bigger person for broadcasting it instead of keeping it to herself.
Fact is most people who are easy to get along with are so not because of what they say to your face, but by the restraint in not saying something. This is especially true of dogma and chili recipes.
that is very small of her to do that..And she doing it in front of the camera to get the sympathy of the fans...I HATE that....Robin may be the "drama queen", but at least she tells you unfront when she does not agree with you or like something...I can deal with that...Be about it, don't be fake
No one wanted to hear it. No one. Not even Kesse and Shannon. There's nothing praiseworthy about that. It just shows how tiny her grasp on dealing with people who aren't like her is. Miniscule.
well, there are a lot of things people don't want to hear, but it is better to hear it, than to say it front of the camera and have them hear it later...She showcased for the fans IMO, and I don't like that...
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