David Archuleta - Season 7

[AsIs]

Not getting water isn't one of the red flags that I have read. But that article really proves nothing other than he and his father are on the same page press release wise.

And if his Dad is having as much input as David states in that article, David should be disquailified.

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[BoBoFan]

I totally despise users & manipulators & Jeff A is just that!
Parents or not... I don't take crap from my parents, He did not choose "that" as his daddy! Therefore, I say his dad can shove it straight up! Hopefully he will tell his dad just that!
P.S I don't like Tiger Woods either! Puke!

Originally Posted by JayPea Patches

I think telling his father anything like that, even though slightly in jest, is not appropriate.

David truly respects his father, and as hard as it is for us to accept that, they probably get along OK.

It's unfortunate that David doesn't get more opportunity to be himself though, and that's what's truly sad.

He's missing out, all because his dad is masterminding his career.

I guess you might be able to say the same about Tiger Woods too, eh?

It might not be the RIGHT thing to do, but it's certainly not the WORST.

[JayPea Patches]

Originally Posted by BoBoFan

I totally despise users & manipulators & Jeff A is just that!
Parents or not... I don't take crap from my parents, He did not choose "that" as his daddy! Therefore, I say his dad can shove it straight up! Hopefully he will tell his dad just that!
P.S I don't like Tiger Woods either! Puke!

BoboFan, I hear where you're coming from, but in the BIG scheme of things, Jeff A may be despised for "manipulating" David into his "model singer", but at least (as far as we publicly know) he is not abusing his son otherwise in a way that may be far more detrimental.

Agreed, David acts like a "zombie" at times, but whether or not it is due to his father's coaching or his individual personality isn't for us to judge. Unless it is documented that Jeff is a "control freak" and whips David into submission, then I would say that is going too far.

But as a lay public person, we don't know how his family is otherwise, and to judge them without a fair understanding of how they inter-relate on a personal level just is NOT fair - and isn't really ANY of OUR business.

Not sticking up for him, but just presenting this in a broader light.

David's a VERY nice kid - I wish there were more of his type in this world, to be totally honest. He's OLD school, and how often do we see that anymore ... someone who ACTUALLY respects his parents?

As for Tiger, how can you NOT admire the guy? He is arguably the "World's Greatest Golfer of ALL-TIME", and will likely break ALL known golfing records by the time he retires. He has also been very open about his respect and admiration of his father, and as much as we may disagree with his dad's modus operandi, it worked, and turned out a GREAT human being in Tiger.

We might all be jealous of his success, but I feel that is something that should be admired, and not disrespected.

[BoBoFan]

Parental Love is not Parental Control... I hope he gets through this!
I know the damn feeling too!
"Bitter/BoBo, Party of 1, your table is ready!!!"
Parents suck sometimes... all the time to me!

[TopCatDC]

Originally Posted by BoBoFan

(Quote from TV Guide article)
It's worth noting that none of the stories about Jeff Archuleta that have circulated have been attributed — they all quote "unnamed sources." And that David Archuleta is in a better position to know what's going on than any "unnamed source."

Nope - Naomi Judd is on tape and on record with her first-hand observations of the elder Archuleta's behavior on Star Search (on which she was a judge).

[TopCatDC]

Originally Posted by JayPea Patches

...we don't know how his family is otherwise, and to judge them without a fair understanding of how they inter-relate on a personal level just is NOT fair - and isn't really ANY of OUR business.

This is a very valid point, and anyone who has been misjudged from afar will certainly stand up and applaud.

On the other hand, the bystander who has suffered abuse will look at the same situation and be enraged at the possibility of yet another young victim being hurt, while an embarrassed public looks away, not wanting to get involved in something that's none of their business.

Just saying, there are no easy answers. That's why it's good to read you and others putting up different points of view here.

[TopCatDC]

Originally Posted by AsIs

In this case, Jeff and David are a package. The contract is Davids with Jeff as his guardian. David could be disqualified for singing those words. He most likely won't be, but I would bet contractually he could be.

Here is a situation where exercising their legal rights would backfire big time. Since David is a minor, it would be difficult for AI to explain to the public that they were kicking him off for doing something that his father told him to do. Why punish the kid for doing what he was told? I think you're right - legally they could do it. But the outcry would be immense.

Their second problem is that it's so late in the season. What would they do for the final three? Cancel the show? Just let everyone pass on to next week? Bring back Jason Castro so they could throw him off again? There are no good options.

[TopCatDC]

Originally Posted by TopCatDC

Nope - Naomi Judd is on tape and on record with her first-hand observations of the elder Archuleta's behavior on Star Search (on which she was a judge).

Also, I just saw the Entertainment Weekly interview with Nigel Lythgoe published yesterday. He says the reason Archuleta Sr. was given the hook was to "relieve pressure" on David; not because Jeff was providing unfair musical assistance, as vocal coach Dean Kaelin asserted in People last week.

I'm not going to judge who's closer to the truth, but contrary to TV Guides assertion, here is someone else with first hand knowledge going on record saying that David was under pressure from Papa.

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I loved when Simon said "it's like chihuahua trying to be a tiger" on the Chris Brown song. that just defined the whole song.

[calamari]

Originally Posted by TopCatDC

Also, I just saw the Entertainment Weekly interview with Nigel Lythgoe published yesterday. He says the reason Archuleta Sr. was given the hook was to "relieve pressure" on David; not because Jeff was providing unfair musical assistance, as vocal coach Dean Kaelin asserted in People last week.

So much for everyone's earlier claim (which I'd completely agreed with) that TPTB wouldn't make a statement...

And it turns out that, with or without Daddy present to coach him, Archuleta sings the exact same way. So that's the only way he knows to handle a song (no real surprise there) and he's apparently quite capable of conveying his wishes to the band without a translator (or the band leader just mutters, "It's Archuleta, guys -- you know what to do").