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05-11-2008, 06:55 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 Quote:
I don't know arguing about this is moot because we're obviously not going to change our minds on this. I'll believe this rumor when American Idol makes a statement. In journalism anonymous sources that TMZ got from the AI crew mean nothing. For all we know that anonymous source could've been someone with a personal vendetta against the Archuleta family. Heck this source could be a TMZ dude just making this up and pretending to be that "source". Until there are actual names to go along with this then it holds no water. So once AI makes a statement this is just TMZ trying to get web hits. I know enough about journalism to not for a SECOND trust TMZ. The associated press is just as bad. They don't bother to look at the source either. You guys can believe what you want, but I need actual sources before I believe it. ![]() | |
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05-11-2008, 07:39 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 Weird al...... I love that you are so extremely confident, but I don't know that anyone watching a person on a television show can ever be 99% certain of how a father and son are... especially when the father has gotten no screen time. Where in the world does your confidence come from? The best that any of us can do is make ASSUMPTIONS based upon repetitive reports that, for the past three months have been telling us that Jeff Archuleta is a controlling stage dad. These are reports from innumerous sources of which TMZ is the latest, not the first. The "rumor" that Jeff Archuleta has been banned from backstage has been confirmed by David's voice coach. The voice coach (his from at home) is saying that it is because Jeff's expertise is giving David an unfair advantage. My ASSUMPTION is that, if that were true, Jeff Archuleta would have been banned from arranging sessions a long time ago because to allow David an unfair advantage even prior to the final 3 would have been out of line. So there has to be more behind it at this point. And, if you are going to wait for American Idol to make an official statement of CONFIRMATION, you are going to be waiting a long, long time. There is absolutely no way the company that is Idol can make an official statement saying "yes, we banned Jeff Archuleta because he is a pain in the butt and he cost us X dollars because of his arrangement" because they would be getting into some legally sensitive areas that might potentially be grounds for interfering with the outcome of a competition/game show by influencing public opinion. You are not going to get your confirmation. Not even after the show ends, I am willing to bet. So again, the only thing that we have to go on are the innumerous reports from all areas since the Top 24 were announced in late January that discuss Jeff Archuleta. And unfortunately the "controlling stage dad" persona far outweighs the "Jeff is just a loving dad that is watching out for his kid" persona that you're trying to portray.
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05-11-2008, 08:09 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 I'm going by behind the scenes videos posted by the Archuletas that have extra access to David. And of course I can't be 99% certain. But my gut is telling me that Jeff is a good guy. I just get that vibe from him from interviews he's done. And I know AI will never have a confirmation of this. This pretty much PROVES how much TMZ is trying to make him into the stage dad from hell. Too bad Jason Castro shut that rumor down. BTW, I've seen just about every David Archuleta video from behind the scenes. Do you have a link to the article/video of his voice coach confirming this? Again I'm not denying that he was banned from backstage for changing the lyrics/being too much of an unfair advantage. What I AM denying is the fact that he's this HORRIBLE person. |
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05-11-2008, 08:39 PM
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| Master manipulator... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern USA
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 Quote:
The video with Jason proves absolutely nothing in my opinion. When they first asked him what he thought of Jeff, he didn't say anything at all... just giggled a little. After being pushed, he kept his comments as brief as possible. Having the nicest, most laid back and shy guy on the show say to a pushy paparazzo that Jeff was an OK guy does not in any way disprove that Jeff is in fact a nutcase who is ruining what would/could otherwise be a really talented performer. Jeff has ruined David, IMO. | |
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05-11-2008, 08:41 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 It's at People.com : The #1 Celebrity Site on the Web, Weird Al.... open to anyone. Quote:
![]() And I don't think Jason Castro would have a mean word to say about anyone. Not your best resource there, either. He speaks only kindly about Simon, too.
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05-11-2008, 08:46 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 Quote:
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05-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 My final post on this subject It's a blog, but it was from people.com. I don't know you guys obviously make good points. But I think it's just gotten blown way out of proportion. |
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05-11-2008, 09:22 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 Quote:
It has been no secret all season that Jeff has caused issues with the producers and he has been labeled a "stage dad" from the get-go. People didn't just randomly pick him out of a crowd and decide to say bad things about him. He did something to garner all of these "rumors". | |
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05-11-2008, 09:30 PM
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05-11-2008, 09:37 PM
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| Re: David Archuleta - Season 7 Quote:
I don't know how bad Jeff is, as I'm not there to witness it. But it is very difficult to believe that the rumors that have been flying about his behavior since the beginning of the season (and apparently before that as well) don't have any basis in fact. I also don't think that the other Idols are likely to comment on the situation - they may well have been asked by TPTB not to do so. | |
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