Marine Josh Retreats from "Idol" Tour - Page 2

zippy · 06-29-2003, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by Lil_Cutie
You know what's soooo wrong about this? That they freakin gave him permission to go on tour and then right before it happens they decide he can't! This appalls me and I'm not pleased. I'm angry that they won't let him go on tour. It's unfair. And btw, I signed a petition and if anyone else wants to, it's at www.petitiononline.com/abjc

I refer you to this quote, "unable to complete his required training in the allotted time," Ask someone who is now or has been in the military what that means, and you will understand that the Marines did not capriciously pull this from Josh.

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Christina1106 · 06-29-2003, 02:40 PM

Actually, I have heard from sources their statement about Josh "unable to complete his required training in the allotted time," by the Marines is false.
It's an upset because it was set and stone, and then the Marines went back on their word.

Christina1106 · 06-29-2003, 02:41 PM

I also forgot to add how much I didn't like that article. Why does it seem every journalist hates him?

zippy · 06-29-2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Christina1106
Actually, I have heard from sources their statement about Josh "unable to complete his required training in the allotted time," by the Marines is false.
It's an upset because it was set and stone, and then the Marines went back on their word.

So now you are calling Major Curtis L. Hill a liar. Yeah, right

***John*** · 06-29-2003, 10:00 PM

Nothing is set in stone until Josh is on stage. I agree, it's pretty crappy of the Marines to revoke their permission, but it's possible that Josh's permission was granted contingent upon meeting his training requirements. And if it became obvious he wasn't going to be able to meet them in time, then they are smart to announce it now, rather than when you're all crushed into the venue in Minneapolis, waiting for him to butcher his first song.

Oops, did I say that?

pepper · 06-29-2003, 10:15 PM

This may be a foolish question, but I know nothing about the military. Wouldn't Josh have already completed his training? How much time is left to his military commitment? I always thought training happened at the beginning, and I also thought Josh didn't have that much time left (unless he chose to re-enlist).

zippy · 06-30-2003, 04:57 AM

People in the military are meeting training requirements all the time. They are constantly being evaluated for all sorts of things - physical fitness, how well do their assigned job, knowledge of their specialty, marksmanship, use of tools and equipment, etc, plus they periodically have to go to school to learn new things or to advance in rank. I think Josh has a little less than a year left in his enlistment.

***John*** · 06-30-2003, 06:52 AM

If I'm not mistaken, he had about 18 months to go when AI finished, which would mean he's got about 16 left.

**fluff** · 06-30-2003, 08:53 AM

Like pepper, I know nothing about the military either, but I think Josh was pretty lucky to be allowed to compete on the show in the first place.

He appears to be a dedicated guy and I imagine he appreciates the opportunity he had.

I think he'll be remembered once his military commitment is over and will get the chance to pursue his music career.

Feifer · 06-30-2003, 10:30 AM

Did anyone ever think that maybe Josh does not want to go on tour since he did not win? Maybe he is just finished with AI. That would be a convenient way to get out of his AI resposibilities. This is just a theory.

06-29-2003, 02:40 PM	#12
Christina1106 In Josh We Trust Join Date: Apr 2003 Age: 21 Posts: 39	Actually, I have heard from sources their statement about Josh "unable to complete his required training in the allotted time," by the Marines is false. It's an upset because it was set and stone, and then the Marines went back on their word. __________________ http://www.joshgracin.org

06-29-2003, 02:41 PM	#13
Christina1106 In Josh We Trust Join Date: Apr 2003 Age: 21 Posts: 39	I also forgot to add how much I didn't like that article. Why does it seem every journalist hates him? __________________ http://www.joshgracin.org

06-30-2003, 08:53 AM	#19
fluff Why can't we just rewind? Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 41,941	Like pepper, I know nothing about the military either, but I think Josh was pretty lucky to be allowed to compete on the show in the first place. He appears to be a dedicated guy and I imagine he appreciates the opportunity he had. I think he'll be remembered once his military commitment is over and will get the chance to pursue his music career. __________________ "That's Numberwang!"

06-30-2003, 10:30 AM	#20
Feifer Home Sweet Home! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas Age: 39 Posts: 4,532	Did anyone ever think that maybe Josh does not want to go on tour since he did not win? Maybe he is just finished with AI. That would be a convenient way to get out of his AI resposibilities. This is just a theory. __________________ It occurred to me that no matter how bleak things might seem at times, at least I have a head. ----Stargazer

06-29-2003, 10:00 PM	#15
*John* The race is back! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: On the mat Age: 39 Posts: 40,434	Nothing is set in stone until Josh is on stage. I agree, it's pretty crappy of the Marines to revoke their permission, but it's possible that Josh's permission was granted contingent upon meeting his training requirements. And if it became obvious he wasn't going to be able to meet them in time, then they are smart to announce it now, rather than when you're all crushed into the venue in Minneapolis, waiting for him to butcher his first song. Oops, did I say that?

06-29-2003, 10:15 PM	#16
pepper FORT Fan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: new york Posts: 310	This may be a foolish question, but I know nothing about the military. Wouldn't Josh have already completed his training? How much time is left to his military commitment? I always thought training happened at the beginning, and I also thought Josh didn't have that much time left (unless he chose to re-enlist).

06-30-2003, 04:57 AM	#17
zippy FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,243	People in the military are meeting training requirements all the time. They are constantly being evaluated for all sorts of things - physical fitness, how well do their assigned job, knowledge of their specialty, marksmanship, use of tools and equipment, etc, plus they periodically have to go to school to learn new things or to advance in rank. I think Josh has a little less than a year left in his enlistment.

06-30-2003, 06:52 AM	#18
*John* The race is back! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: On the mat Age: 39 Posts: 40,434	If I'm not mistaken, he had about 18 months to go when AI finished, which would mean he's got about 16 left.