Mario Vazquez - Page 24

Mantenna · 03-19-2005, 04:12 PM

If posts are disappearing, then yes, there is a reason.

This is the Mario Vasquez thread. Any discussion that isn't about him shouldn't be here, so it won't be.

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shoepie · 03-19-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by My2Cents

Originally posted by lex liv

3. Mario has cut a single included in an Argentinian album (that's weird)

I think we need to remember the timeline here:

May of 2004 -- a CD is released by Cesar, an Argentinian guitarist, called "Worlds of Change" featuring vocals by then unknown Mario Vazquez (Mario's name does not appear in the credits).
August of 2004 -- Mario auditions for American Idol in Las Vegas.
January 26th America gets it's first look at Mario when his audition is broadacast on AI4.
February 16th -- Mario is named to the Final 24.
March 8th -- the "Worlds of Change" CD is re-released
March 9th -- Mario voted into the Top 12
March 11th -- Mario quits AI4

You have to admit that this may have been his plan all along. It is possible that Mario never intended to go all the way with AI4 but just did it for the publicity.

Or it could be that he did not anticipate the CD would be re-released using his name, clearly for their gain. His name did not originally appear in the credits so to say his vocals were featured is a bit of a stretch.

My2Cents · 03-19-2005, 07:43 PM

Orginally posted by shoepie

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Or it could be that he did not anticipate the CD would be re-released using his name, clearly for their gain. His name did not originally appear in the credits so to say his vocals were featured is a bit of a stretch.

When I said his vocals are "featured" I meant that he was the only vocalist on the CD. You have to admit that when he auditioned for AI4 he certainly knew that a CD with his vocals was released just 3 months before that. You also have to wonder what the agreement was between Mario and Cesar....did Mario get paid up front? will Mario get a percentage of the CD sales? If you go to Cesar's official web site you will see that Mario is now prominantly mentioned...I doubt that Mario is letting them do that for free.

lex_liv · 03-19-2005, 08:29 PM

Whatever his reason, I do hope this does not fall flat on his face. He obviously has talent and the "it" factor to make it, and for that to be overshadowed by "controversy" is such a disappointment.

I hope he plays his cards very well and know the right kind of people in the industry.

marksman · 03-19-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tammi

I applaud Mario for getting out before he was owned and controlled. NO ONE has happily -- and long-term -- benefitted from the American Idol/19 hold! Not even Kelly! She got out as soon as she could. I cannot believe that, after REALLY watching and investigating the bad experiences of past contestants/winners, ANYONE would give their life to the horrors of an American Idol life.

If you personally know (and care about) any of the prior casualties, you'll agree that a modicum of success with American Idol is the curse of death!

Nobody would know who any of these people are let alone them having billboard ranked records. It is entirely unfair to claim they did nothing for them. While their contracts may have been draconian, it was the price they paid for their shot at the big time. Heck I saw the other day even Josh Gracin is selling some cds.

Rest assured none of those who got out of their AI contracts did so cheaply.

ranger1rg · 03-19-2005, 10:14 PM

mario's 15 minutes are just about up....

it doesn't help that he looked like such a dweeb on the letterman show.

Tammi · 03-19-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marksman

Nobody would know who any of these people are let alone them having billboard ranked records. It is entirely unfair to claim they did nothing for them. While their contracts may have been draconian, it was the price they paid for their shot at the big time. Heck I saw the other day even Josh Gracin is selling some cds.

Rest assured none of those who got out of their AI contracts did so cheaply.

My issue is that by this season -- hell, by season THREE, at least! -- it should be clear that you are signing your life away if you agree to the demands of American Idol. The early contestants were caught unaware.

The expectations (and regulations) that I have observed have been brutal at best. I truly believe that those WORTHY of a career would have found success without American Idol. Some, unfortunately, have lost their chances BECAUSE of selling their souls to their American Idol contracts. For instance, Kelly and Justin never wanted to make their abominable movie. Both knew it was a disaster in the making. Simon told them it would be a mistake. BUT, unfortunately, they had no say in their careers.

At this point, I wholeheartedly support anyone who can beat the AI/19 machine. My congratulations to Mario!

BoBoFan · 03-19-2005, 10:56 PM

I love Mario & I wish him the best- I miss him!!!

He will be just fine without American Idol... Simon even told him that...
So What if he wants to bow out early, isn't it better knowing he can/will/did get a record deal early & give the other remaining contestants a "TRUE" shot at stardom... he's accomplished it, so let's not beat a dead horse.
We should applaud him & move on! There are other contestants in this competition that deserve to win & one of them will. Mario will be just fine, the other contestants will get an even better shot since he was the early favorite & has now withdrawn...
Now may the best person win & congratulations to Mario!
I'm happy his talent was honored & recognized!!

Bellenote · 03-20-2005, 01:09 AM

Before everyone attacks Mario, oops, too late, you should read the article by MTV that announced that he was booted off the show due to the re-emergence of the Argentian CD which violates their contract! I'd say that he showed a lot of class by going along with the innocuous "personal reasons" as his excuse for getting kicked out. And I don't blame him one bit, after being run off the show at that point, to hire a lawyer to see about freeing himself from the contract he had only signed a week before, along with everyone else, so he could start working as a singer!

Maybe noone ever taught some people this little maxim, but don't judge by appearances (ie. "never judge a book by its cover!") Before you stomp the poor guy, make sure you're going by facts and not rumors.

Whether you liked him or not, Mario was a good singer, an excellent entertainer and performer and a genuinely nice guy. It definitely would have added more fun to the show to have him competing against the better performers. I wish him every sucess, including in getting free of newly sold, 19 Entertainment!

I'll go looking for that article, again, now and see if I can copy it here.

BubbleBunny · 03-20-2005, 01:36 AM

I think I've read in an in interview with a producer that it doesn't matter if someone had a record deal before getting involved with the show. It just matters if the record is still in effect.

03-20-2005, 01:36 AM	#240
BubbleBunny FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,152	I think I've read in an in interview with a producer that it doesn't matter if someone had a record deal before getting involved with the show. It just matters if the record is still in effect. __________________ A recent survey stated that the average person's greatest fear is having to give a speech in public. Somehow this ranked even higher than death which was third on the list. So, you're telling me that at a funeral, most people would rather be the guy in the coffin than have to stand up and give a eulogy. -- Jerry Seinfield

03-19-2005, 04:12 PM	#231
Mantenna Courtesy and Goodwill Join Date: Apr 2003 Age: 23 Posts: 8,504	If posts are disappearing, then yes, there is a reason. This is the Mario Vasquez thread. Any discussion that isn't about him shouldn't be here, so it won't be. Posts that don't follow forum rules will also be removed. You can read the rules here, and if you do, everything should be pretty self-explanatory.

03-19-2005, 08:29 PM	#234
lex_liv FORT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In one of 7,107 Islands Posts: 63	Whatever his reason, I do hope this does not fall flat on his face. He obviously has talent and the "it" factor to make it, and for that to be overshadowed by "controversy" is such a disappointment. I hope he plays his cards very well and know the right kind of people in the industry.

03-19-2005, 10:14 PM	#236
ranger1rg FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: PA Posts: 2,803	mario's 15 minutes are just about up.... it doesn't help that he looked like such a dweeb on the letterman show.

03-19-2005, 10:56 PM	#238
BoBoFan Feelin' FoRTified~ Join Date: May 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Age: 49 Posts: 2,224	I love Mario & I wish him the best- I miss him!!! He will be just fine without American Idol... Simon even told him that... So What if he wants to bow out early, isn't it better knowing he can/will/did get a record deal early & give the other remaining contestants a "TRUE" shot at stardom... he's accomplished it, so let's not beat a dead horse. We should applaud him & move on! There are other contestants in this competition that deserve to win & one of them will. Mario will be just fine, the other contestants will get an even better shot since he was the early favorite & has now withdrawn... Now may the best person win & congratulations to Mario! I'm happy his talent was honored & recognized!!

03-20-2005, 01:09 AM	#239
Bellenote Idol Fan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: All Dimensions Posts: 724	Before everyone attacks Mario, oops, too late, you should read the article by MTV that announced that he was booted off the show due to the re-emergence of the Argentian CD which violates their contract! I'd say that he showed a lot of class by going along with the innocuous "personal reasons" as his excuse for getting kicked out. And I don't blame him one bit, after being run off the show at that point, to hire a lawyer to see about freeing himself from the contract he had only signed a week before, along with everyone else, so he could start working as a singer! Maybe noone ever taught some people this little maxim, but don't judge by appearances (ie. "never judge a book by its cover!") Before you stomp the poor guy, make sure you're going by facts and not rumors. Whether you liked him or not, Mario was a good singer, an excellent entertainer and performer and a genuinely nice guy. It definitely would have added more fun to the show to have him competing against the better performers. I wish him every sucess, including in getting free of newly sold, 19 Entertainment! I'll go looking for that article, again, now and see if I can copy it here.