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    Clay never said that Adam thought he was arrogant or superior. He only said that the judges pimp contestants but they should let the public speak for themselves.

    See how the story gets more twisted around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireWoman;3469333;
    But Simon is PAID for his opinion and to be harsh.. we expect it and a lot of people like it. Simon also had wonderful things to say about Adam.. hell he saw all the performances. Clay admitted he only saw one.. again, bad move Clay way to look for attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm MEL;3468866;
    I didn't take the original post that way (what it says in bold). I have just run across some of this recent Clay info, and I have to say that I did not watch AI in its first years and am not Clay fan (don't dislike him either - basically indifferent) - I don't find what he said particularly inflammatory or offensive, although I am not a subscriber to his website and therefore have read what he said only secondhand. Just thought I'd jump in here and mention that because this post popped out and grabbed my attention!

    I don't see how a comment like "did we read the same thing?" can be viewed any other way.
    Questioning whether people read the same thing as you is a absolutely a way of saying " after reading this, we don't agree, therefore I'm questioning whether you even read the same thing I did because if you did you would not think what you're thinking."


    As for Clay's comments, I think anything of value about the Idol show was lost among the bitchiness of his comments regarding the one performance of Adam's that he saw.
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    This year it all came down to two contestants so extremely different and mis-matched…. one that was so obviously the “favorite”… so hyped and polished and “ready for market”; who (accurately or inaccurately) came off to many as arrogant and superior … and one kid who no one thought had a chance and (accurately or inaccurately) came off as humble and real.

    This is a direct quote from Clay's blog, as posted in post #1604.

    So, he never said that he found Adam arrogant.....but implied that people were inclined to see Adam as arrogant and superior and Kris as humble and real.

    I never talked to anyone who saw this in the contestants; although I would not be surprised if more people found Kris "real." Obviously, the clean-cut kid in the jeans and tee-shirts is going to seem like more of an average guy than the one with the guyliner and blue highlights. So in other words, he is saying that people voted for Kris because he was more like them? I thought they were supposed to be choosing the best singer. Clay is just reinforcing the idea that Kris won, not because he was more talented, but because (a) the judges pimped Adam too much and (b) Adam was too weird. He isn't really doing either contestant any favors with his insinuations.

    At any rate, I maintain that Clay is completely wrong to try to attach the arrogant lable to Adam. He was confident and flamboyant but never arrogant.

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    If Adam's singing "made his ears bleed," why was Clay supposedly wanting to do a duet with him? From what I've read, Clay just showed up backstage, thinking he was going to get special treatment. Instead, they shooed him away.

    Clay apparently turned up unannounced at the AmIdol set in L.A. last week, hoping for some face time with Adam and--according to an Idol staffer--some "VIP treatment."

    ''I don't know why Clay felt that way,'' the staff member told Zwecker. ''Everyone knows--and certainly Clay knows--he's persona non grata around here.''

    Clay was reportedly promptly escorted off the set, and a Lambert/Aiken meeting of the minds never took place. ''To say the least, it was tense around here when Clay showed up--and boy, did they hustle him off the premises as fast as possible," the anonymous staffer told the Sun-Times. "If he didn't get the hint after that--he never will.''
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    Sounds like the little baby was just banging on his highchair, wanting some attention. Didn't his label recently dump him?

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    Re: Clay Aiken

    Because everything in the national enquirer is 100 percent true

    This blog could also likely be proof that clay wouldn't and didn't want to duet with Adam..they don't have even close to the same voice or music stylings why would clay want to duet with him..of course some are likely to believe the worst in clay no matter what, but showing up uninvited to idol is not his style and not something he would do..the story originated in the national enquirer, I didn't believe the ne before I became a clay fan, I'm certainly not going to start now..
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    According to Yahoo, the story was first published in the Chicago Sun-Times, hardly a gossip rag. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the Enquirer picked it up and ran with it.
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    Clay is entitled to his opinion, but it is a pretty snarky one, overall.
    I think some of the former AI contestants, like Clay, would do well to realize that they would not have attained what they now have without having appeared on the AI stage and reaped all the benefits AI has to offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waywyrd;3469718;
    According to Yahoo, the story was first published in the Chicago Sun-Times, hardly a gossip rag. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the Enquirer picked it up and ran with it.
    thats incorrect..the story was first published in the NE, yahoo just quotes where they got the story from..it was seen in NE before anyone else published it..once it started in the NE then other places started reporting it...but it originated there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srs_in_Oregon;3469814;
    thats incorrect..the story was first published in the NE, yahoo just quotes where they got the story from..it was seen in NE before anyone else published it..once it started in the NE then other places started reporting it...but it originated there.
    The Chicago Sun Times is my local paper and it's a real paper that doesn't go trolling for bargain basement stories from the National Enquirer. As all reputable publications, they source their stories before printing them. This is the story that appeared there:

    'Idol' doesn't want Clay anywhere near Lambert :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bill Zwecker

    Stepping on feet of Clay
    'Idol' doesn't want ex-runner-up anywhere near Lambert

    BY BILL ZWECKER Sun-Times Columnist

    Though it looks likely Adam Lambert will be the next ''American Idol'' winner, ex-''Idol'' runner-up Clay Aiken already is reaching out to Lambert -- looking to team up with the edgy singer for a possible duets album and concert tour.

    That was just one reason for the backstage tension on the ''Idol'' set in Hollywood last week, when Aiken showed up unannounced but expecting the VIP treatment. ''I don't know why Clay felt that way,'' said a show staffer who has been on board since the reality talent show was launched. ''Everyone knows -- and certainly Clay knows -- he's persona non grata around here.''

    The reason for the ''Idol'' folks' lack of affection for Aiken is related to his being the first show contestant to dump 19 Entertainment, the management company that handles all the recording deals, merchandising, tours, sponsorship, film deal and virtually all aspects of all things ''American Idol''-related.

    ''And not only did he drop 19 Entertainment, but everyone knows he also talked Kelly Clarkson into dropping us, too,'' said the staff member.

    ''To say the least, it was tense around here when Clay showed up -- and boy, did they hustle him off the premises as fast as possible. If he didn't get the hint after that -- he never will.''
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