Whitney - Cycle 10

[ANTopmodel]

Originally Posted by ANTopmodel

I'm not pro-fat at all. I just love Whitney because she has a great face and can take god pictures. In all honesty, I'd rather she wasn't plus size. Then I think she'd have something beyond fierce. She'd be one of the real classic faces of ANTM. A la Yoanna, Mollie, etc. In some of her pre show photos before she gained weight, she looked like a real 90's supermodel. It's not a Gemma or a Sasha look, but it floats my boat. I still think she's cute fat though.

This is where I preferred her thinner.

[Google]

 

[tove0wnzj00]

Well, Whitney is clearly a mouth breather. That's why her gob is always open. Didn't you hear her in the commercial? All those little gasps before she spoke? It's because she can't breathe through her nose. I mean, I might be a little facetious, but ultimately, I really do believe she's a mouth breather.

Not that there's anything wrong with that! (Except maybe because in a modelling competition, wherein you rely on your pictures and viewers ultimately begin to wonder whether you're part goldfish.)

Okay, so just to drive my BMI shilling to the hilt (), here is a very handy Body Mass Index calculator. If we assume that Whitney is 5'10 and 150 lbs and plot that, her BMI is 21.5, which, if you look at the BMI categories in the sidebar to the left, is a perfectly normal value. If we assume that Fatima is 5'8 and 100 lbs and plot that, we get 15.2 ... which is actually extremely underweight. Now, I don't personally believe that that in itself constitutes unhealthiness - for instance, my BMI is something like 14.4, and I'm perfectly healthy, even if my weight has been despaired at by psychiatrists and nutrition specialists alike over the years.

Well, I don't really have anything to remark upon Fatima-wise, at least not in these pages. The point that I'm driving at is really that no, Whitney is not fat. Sure, you could argue that there is cultural bias in the calculation of BMI, but the fact is that the original Belgian model has been since adjusted for different countries and culture: for instance, in America, the beginning value for obesity was lowered from 27 to 25; in Asia, the beginning value for obesity was lowered from 27 to 23, along, I believe, with some of the beginning values for what is considered underweight.

(Also, since I'm doing this anyway, this is an extremely interesting medical study on the corrolation between BMI and perceived attractiveness. Seems like Whitney's figure is pretty attractive to most people, huh? I can't find the original study on the net and I'm loathe to type it all in, but maybe this is easier reading anyway. I'm going to stop now, though, before I turn this into yet another EE.)

[Starbucks880]

Originally Posted by Antm101

shes 150? i don't care how much she weighs, she is saying she is representing the fat girls out there. that is a bad message. thats basiclly saying Oh my God a fat girl has won americas next top model and that means i can be a model to i don't need to exercise and i don't need to lose weight.

stupid, fat girls should go home.

I am very skeptical that she is 5-10 and only 150 pounds--she looks more than that. I have a friend that size and she is much thinner than Whitney but then again I will admit that there are variations in height and weight and Whitney could just have less muscle mass and more fat mass than my friend and still weight the same. In normal world, she isn't fat--in one episode she was given a dress that fit her and it was size 10, which is a lesser size than the average American woman. I also think that in the lingerie shot she could have rocked a look that showed her midriff because it doesn't look bad instead of draping her in all that fabric. I think she looks good bigger--she has a good face, takes pretty good photos. Looking at the photos where she is thinner, I think she looks better in those. It provides a happy medium. In those thinner photos, she is not ghastly skinny like Fatima, but she looks healthy. I think her face also looks better where it isn't as full and she doesn't have that double chin that she has now.

[tove0wnzj00]

Originally Posted by Starbucks880

I am very skeptical that she is 5-10 and only 150 pounds--she looks more than that.

Yeah, I'm thinking she might be more, too. I put 5'10" and 150 lbs more as a sort of guideline than anything else.

[GuruBishisama]

Weighing in (pun intended) on the Whitney=Fattie=Monster debate...

One--I don't think she's fat. I'm going to agree with all of the people who said she is pretty average sized. And if we want to get technical, she may be big, but it's not like she has a bad body. There are no rolls on this girl or anything.

Two--Ever hear of Crystal Renn aka the only example of a plus size model anyone ever comes up with? She was a skinny model when she started out, but it simply was not her body type. It took her far too much work to maintain a size 2 frame--enough work to the point where she was living unhealthily and unhappily. It was suggested she try for plus size modeling instead, so she let her body go back up to it's natural size (12) and is now more successful than she was when she was skinny. Maybe Whitney was similar. I don't think it's that far fetched of a theory.

Three-- Pardon my French, but the fashion industry is filled with F***in retards, plain and simple. I cannot back a world where only sizes zero through two can be considered beautiful. I think it's absolutely insane.

Four--People HATE Whitney for bashing skinny models, but nobody has any issue with people who bash plus sizes because skinny girls are the norm. How about we accept the fact that not everyone likes the Alice Burdeu body type.

[BustaK]

Originally Posted by GuruBishisama

Weighing in (pun intended) on the Whitney=Fattie=Monster debate...

One--I don't think she's fat. I'm going to agree with all of the people who said she is pretty average sized. And if we want to get technical, she may be big, but it's not like she has a bad body. There are no rolls on this girl or anything.

Two--Ever hear of Crystal Renn aka the only example of a plus size model anyone ever comes up with? She was a skinny model when she started out, but it simply was not her body type. It took her far too much work to maintain a size 2 frame--enough work to the point where she was living unhealthily and unhappily. It was suggested she try for plus size modeling instead, so she let her body go back up to it's natural size (12) and is now more successful than she was when she was skinny. Maybe Whitney was similar. I don't think it's that far fetched of a theory.

Three-- Pardon my French, but the fashion industry is filled with F***in retards, plain and simple. I cannot back a world where only sizes zero through two can be considered beautiful. I think it's absolutely insane.

Four--People HATE Whitney for bashing skinny models, but nobody has any issue with people who bash plus sizes because skinny girls are the norm. How about we accept the fact that not everyone likes the Alice Burdeu body type.

Guru, I always like your posts!

Her personality doesn't bother me either.

With that said, she's like my fourth of fifth favorite for this cycle.

[Marleybone]

Originally Posted by GuruBishisama

I cannot back a world where only sizes zero through two can be considered beautiful. I think it's absolutely insane.

Thank you. This is why I despise the fashion industry. It's ridiculous to me that Whitney is even considered "plus size" in the first place.

[Allie]

Originally Posted by Marleybone

Thank you. This is why I despise the fashion industry. It's ridiculous to me that Whitney is even considered "plus size" in the first place.

I agree as well. I don't understand why they have to label them anyway.

I like healthy looking models. Skinny or normal weight. Some of the popular models, to me, look sick. I know the girls work very hard, but the dark circles, bags under their eyes and forehead bones showing just make me sad.

Whitney looks healthy. So does Fatima. Jaslene looked healthy during her cycle, too.

[willl]

Exactly. I don't care what a girl looks like, as long as she looks healthy. Whitney looks healthy, and she's a beautiful woman. Fatima is way, way skinnier, but she looks healthy too: I think it's just her body type. Same with Jaslene, as said above: she looks great too. I don't have a problem with being underweight, as long as it's natural, as it is with Fatima and Jaslene.

I can't stand the people who are saying that Whitney is "fat". This girl is not fat: this girl has a butt and boobs, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I love girls with boobs and a butt, and so I love Whitney's body.

shes 150? i don't care how much she weighs, she is saying she is representing the fat girls out there. that is a bad message. thats basiclly saying Oh my God a fat girl has won americas next top model and that means i can be a model to i don't need to exercise and i don't need to lose weight.

stupid, fat girls should go home.

By saying she's representing the "fat" girls out there, that's definitely not saying that everybody should be obese. That's saying, that you don't have to starve yourself to look good. It is insane that all models are so damn skinny, because models have a role model function. Why don't they have a normal bodytype? At this very moment, thousands of girls are hanging down the toilet, throwing up what they just ate because of the things some of you are saying. Realize that.

[phat_prince]

but one designer from the go-sees say that they don't use size 0 too, right? That means you can't be too skinny either to be a model that fashion world uses.

ARGH, this whole body issue thing really change people's perceptions a lot. I mean, I can't even tell if a woman normal or fat. I thought whitney is smaller than average but some people say that she's fat.

Now I see why Tyra really cares about this whole body issue thing.

and by the way I prefer whitney's hair to be brown, not blonde like now.