Saleisha - Cycle 9 - Page 93

Hot Mess 10023 · 12-02-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dax

Then you guys are looking at it in a very superficial way. Print work is not the only requirement a model needs to be commercial.

we're not looking at it in a superficial way, modeling agencies do have commercial print on their board.

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Dax · 12-02-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Mess 10023

we're not looking at it in a superficial way, modeling agencies do have commercial print on their board.

But once again, print work is not the only requirement. It is good for a model and if you can appeal the masses with the print work then fine but commercial modeling includes being a spokeperson too, which in that part Lisa wasn't the best. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying that print work is not the only thing.

bucwild · 12-02-2007, 01:47 PM

Modeling agencies do have different sections for different types of models on their websites. Commercial Print, Editorial, Runway, are some examples of those sections.

Dax · 12-02-2007, 01:57 PM

I know, but to be a top model you have to be able to master all of those sections. That's why Saleisha doesn't deserve to win.

Gerku · 12-02-2007, 02:05 PM

No top model is yet to come out of this show so it's ok if one is just a commercial model but then again saleisha is not even a good commercial model, an actress maybe.

emynndajl · 12-02-2007, 06:31 PM

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I know, but to be a top model you have to be able to master all of those sections. That's why Saleisha doesn't deserve to win.

According to Tyra. However, I don't recall seeing Grace Jones whirling around in a pink tutu saying "easy breezy beautiful covergirl" I know She is a rare exception, but still, it's not required of a top model. Come to think of it, the only Top Models I remember seeing in commercials were the Victoria's Secret models, and Kate Moss, even though Kate was just dancing in the darkness, and not saying anything. (I believe it was for a phone, or an iPod or something...)

GuruBishisama · 12-02-2007, 06:45 PM

Realistically, no "top model" really works both fields. Sure, Tyra had her whole 25 shows in Paris and then swtiched to VS and SI, but she wasn't doing HF and Commercial work simultaneously.

Even though it's not realistic, I think it's hard to say that one field is inherently better than the other, and to pick a great commercial model over a great high fashion model or vice versa... that's a tough call to make. I think it makes more sense to pick a girl who can perform well overall, in both fields, as opposed to only one or the other. I don't think that Saleisha has proved that, and therefore, I don't think it's fair that she wins. Chantal, IMO, is the only girl remaining who has commercial and high fashion appeal, and has shown the proper level of skill and talent to fairly take the win.

Dax · 12-02-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by emynndajl

According to Tyra. However, I don't recall seeing Grace Jones whirling around in a pink tutu saying "easy breezy beautiful covergirl" I know She is a rare exception, but still, it's not required of a top model. Come to think of it, the only Top Models I remember seeing in commercials were the Victoria's Secret models, and Kate Moss, even though Kate was just dancing in the darkness, and not saying anything. (I believe it was for a phone, or an iPod or something...)

You have your conception of commercial wrong. It's not about being cute and wearing a pink tutu dress. Like Tyra said in cycle 8 to Jael, you are not suppose to try to do what you think commercial is, you use your personality. Kate Moss is not jumping ans smiling but you know that she's being commercial and that she's selling what she is supposed to sell.

It is required for a Top Model. Why do you think Tyra is always looking for commercial and editorial models? If you can't do high fashion you are not a top model and if you can't be commercial you are not a top model. A top model needs to master the commercial and high fashion world.

emynndajl · 12-02-2007, 07:08 PM

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You have your conception of commercial wrong. It's not about being cute and wearing a pink tutu dress. Like Tyra said in cycle 8 to Jael, you are not suppose to try to do what you think commercial is, you use your personality. Kate Moss is not jumping ans smiling but you know that she's being commercial and that she's selling what she is supposed to sell.

I was using sarcasm...

But still, Chanel Iman's success so far all came from her appearances in countless fashion week runway shows in the past 2 years, and her vogue cover. That's it.

Hot Mess 10023 · 12-02-2007, 07:27 PM

The only thing Saleisha is good for is to be a motivational speaker (like a guidance counselor - her one on one talk with Heather by the pool and her telling her to scream to get all her frustrations out after she bombed at Go See) and an instructor on how to walk (for runways). Model she's not.

12-02-2007, 01:47 PM	#923
bucwild FORT Fogey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The 843 Posts: 1,348	Re: Saleisha - Cycle 9 Modeling agencies do have different sections for different types of models on their websites. Commercial Print, Editorial, Runway, are some examples of those sections. __________________ “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”- Albert Einstein

12-02-2007, 01:57 PM	#924
Dax FORT Fogey Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,046	Re: Saleisha - Cycle 9 I know, but to be a top model you have to be able to master all of those sections. That's why Saleisha doesn't deserve to win.

12-02-2007, 02:05 PM	#925
Gerku MEGGalomaniac Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 311	Re: Saleisha - Cycle 9 No top model is yet to come out of this show so it's ok if one is just a commercial model but then again saleisha is not even a good commercial model, an actress maybe.

12-02-2007, 06:45 PM	#927
GuruBishisama Alex's Boyfriend? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Killadelphia Posts: 1,077	Re: Saleisha - Cycle 9 Realistically, no "top model" really works both fields. Sure, Tyra had her whole 25 shows in Paris and then swtiched to VS and SI, but she wasn't doing HF and Commercial work simultaneously. Even though it's not realistic, I think it's hard to say that one field is inherently better than the other, and to pick a great commercial model over a great high fashion model or vice versa... that's a tough call to make. I think it makes more sense to pick a girl who can perform well overall, in both fields, as opposed to only one or the other. I don't think that Saleisha has proved that, and therefore, I don't think it's fair that she wins. Chantal, IMO, is the only girl remaining who has commercial and high fashion appeal, and has shown the proper level of skill and talent to fairly take the win.

12-02-2007, 07:27 PM	#930
Hot Mess 10023 FORT Fan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: nj/ny Posts: 294	Re: Saleisha - Cycle 9 The only thing Saleisha is good for is to be a motivational speaker (like a guidance counselor - her one on one talk with Heather by the pool and her telling her to scream to get all her frustrations out after she bombed at Go See) and an instructor on how to walk (for runways). Model she's not.