Saleisha - Cycle 9

[saleishafan]

Originally Posted by NoBody

^LOL, well it's your lucky year then. BTW, she looks cute in your avatar. Not high fashion or anything, but it's better than the hair she has now.

Speaking of that hair, I saw a girl with a similar hair on the subway today. LOL, she was kinda ugly though.

Lol, we don't know that! I thought Amanda was gonna win cycle 7... I thought Joanie was gonna win cycle 6... I thought Nik was gonna win cycle 5... I was all wrong! Oh and Kahlen cycle 4. Lol! Well I knew Renee wasn't gonna win. Not after CariDee anyways. OmG, you took the subway? I took the subway yesterday! But I didn't see no saleisha hair. Lol.

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[bluizmicolor]

Looking at SaleishaFan's avatar made me realize she has kind of a fat face...
Lol.

[saleishafan]

Originally Posted by bluizmicolor

Looking at SaleishaFan's avatar made me realize she has kind of a fat face...
Lol.

Well this was before ANTM... she could have been fatter before and she doesn't look fat now.

[GuruBishisama]

Originally Posted by Dax

At that time her commercial was one of the worst one including Heather's. It sucks to admit it but even that I don't like Bianca or Saleisha I think their commercials were fair enough considering how poorly the girls did that week.



I never said that Saleisha deserved that spot. You are posting like I am a Saleisha fan and I'm not. I absolutely agree that Saleisha should have been eliminated before. I always thought Victoria's elimination lacked of fairness and logic.

I don't have double standards. I just know what's fair or not. I think Heather's and Lisa's elimination were fair and I think Saleisha staying in this competition is unfair. That's the simplicity of my opinion. There's nothing else that I'm trying to explain.

After one bad shots many models have been eliminated but the unfairness came by letting Saleisha stay. Her body of work was never taken into account and I agree with that but once again, both eliminations were fair.

First Lisa and heather were the worst in the week of the commercial in the commercials. In the bottom 2 we have Lisa and Heather, the strongest body of work is for Heather not for Lisa. In the other one the strongest body of work was Jenah's, not Heather.

The only ones that are in there without having a strong body of work are Saleisha and Bianca. I'm sure that the judges pretty much know what they are doing by keeping them. I'm sure they know it's unfair and it sucks and it's disappointing that they think that we are going to fall in their little game. We're not dumb and we don't buy Saleisha winning because she deserved it but at the end this is merely a reality show and those are the consequences.

Awesome post, Dax. I agree as well that Saleisha should have been eliminated ages ago--but her being cut either this week or last week would have made no sense at all and have been just as unfair as when Victoria left over Saleisha. Lisa and Heather had really bad commercials, and as much as I don't like Saleisha, she did a really good job with hers. Last week, sure, her picture wasn't that great (though the judges think otherwise, obviously), but she did well enough with the go-sees, and she actually made it back on time. Last week was the time when there was no getting around Heather's AS. It wasn't in the slightest bit unfair.

That being said, I hope Saleisha sucks royally on the warrior shoot and she goes home. Either her or Bianca has to be in the final two, (if not both, but I feel like that will be the case) and even though Bianca has a worse attitude and a worse portfolio, I'd still rather her stay over Saleisha. Besides, Bianca is the undisputed bitch, so it's obvious she won't make it past third.

[RealityLovesMe]

Originally Posted by Dax

I don't have double standards. I just know what's fair or not. I think Heather's and Lisa's elimination were fair and I think Saleisha staying in this competition is unfair. That's the simplicity of my opinion. There's nothing else that I'm trying to explain.

After one bad shots many models have been eliminated but the unfairness came by letting Saleisha stay. Her body of work was never taken into account and I agree with that but once again, both eliminations were fair.

First Lisa and heather were the worst in the week of the commercial in the commercials. In the bottom 2 we have Lisa and Heather, the strongest body of work is for Heather not for Lisa. In the other one the strongest body of work was Jenah's, not Heather.

I totally disagree with you and i think that you are contradicting yourself. If you believe that Saleisha and some others should have been gone a long time ago, then it couldn't possibly fair that Heather and Lisa's eliminations were fair. If Saleisha had been eliminated weeks ago (like she should have ... I agree with you on that), then Heather and Lisa would have been up against someone who may not have been so good at commercials ... and that person may have gone home instead.
There was no reason to send Lisa home instead of Heather ... other than Heather had a better story line. Lack of confidence and not being able to speak when you've been given a distinct advantage are both bad things in the world of TYRA.
Portfolio-wise, Lisa was stronger.
And Lisa's CG picture and commercial was better that week! Additionally, you know the judges didn't expect Heather to do well in go-sees, so why keep her around just to fail?
The show is not fair, and it has never been fair. This season its just getting outrageous with the Saleisha thing.

[Dax]

Heather body of work was way better than Lisa's. Heather has that special thing that makes her stand out. Most of her pictures were absolutely incredible while Lisa's pictures were great.

You are confusing yourself and looking at it in a very wrong perspective. It's simple, Heather and Lisa's elimination were fair, Saleisha and Bianca in this competition at this point is unfair. That simple.

[RealityLovesMe]

Originally Posted by Dax

Heather body of work was way better than Lisa's. Heather has that special thing that makes her stand out. Most of her pictures were absolutely incredible while Lisa's pictures were great.

You are confusing yourself and looking at it in a very wrong perspective. It's simple, Heather and Lisa's elimination were fair, Saleisha and Bianca in this competition at this point is unfair. That simple.

But that doesn't make any sense! If Saleisha and Bianca should not be there in the first place, then how is it fair that Lisa and Heather are gone?

(Honestly, I think it is fair that Heather is gone because I thought she was getting special treatment and should have gone home a long time ago)

But what you are saying is a flawed in terms of logic.

[Dax]

Originally Posted by RealityLovesMe

But that doesn't make any sense! If Saleisha and Bianca should not be there in the first place, then how is it fair that Lisa and Heather are gone?

For the reasons that I explained and that I'm not going to repeat again.

But what you are saying is a flawed in terms of logic.

I think that what is flawed is that you don't understand what I'm saying even that my opinion is pretty clear. The reasons for Heather and Lisa to be eliminated were fair and were the truth. Clear enough?

While I find unfair that models like Saleisha and Bianca don't deserve the position there at right now. I'm sure that even that Heather and Lisa had their bad weeks, if Saliesha and Bianca were treated fairly, Heather and Lisa could have been in the top 4 with Chantal and Jenah.

And Heather was no recieving special treatment. She had her disability but she was treated fairly throughout the competition. They fed her the lines in the commercial but first:

-she deserved it
-she has a disability

[RealityLovesMe]

I think that what is flawed is that you don't understand what I'm saying even that my opinion is pretty clear. The reasons for Heather and Lisa to be eliminated were fair and were the truth. Clear enough?

While I find unfair that models like Saleisha and Bianca don't deserve the position there at right now. I'm sure that even that Heather and Lisa had their bad weeks, if Saliesha and Bianca were treated fairly, Heather and Lisa could have been in the top 4 with Chantal and Jenah.

Its nice of you to add "the reasons they went home were fair" but that is not what you said before.
In any case, it just doesn't make sense to say that it is fair for the girls who were eliminated before to be gone, but unfair for S and B to be there ... and then to say if things were fair, L and H would still be there. Thats a contradiction! But I don't think you understand. But thats ok. What you thought in your head wasn't what you typed. Thats all.

And Heather was no recieving special treatment. She had her disability but she was treated fairly throughout the competition. They fed her the lines in the commercial but first:

-she deserved it
-she has a disability

I'm sure Jay fed the lines to everyone, right? Nope! Even Tyra said she was receiving special treatment? yes! Exactly what can anybody do to DESERVE an unfair advantage? Another contradiction, maybe?

Anyway, Back to Saleisha:
I don't like models without a neck! They shouldn't look my height! Otherwise, I will throw on some stilettos and start modeling myself!

[ANTM<3]

I must agree with Dax that Heather had a much stronger portfolio than Heather. They both did equally bad in the commercial and I believe that there eliminations were fair. I also agree that Bianca and Saleisha staying is unfair.

I also understand the other sides point if Saleisha and Bianca were eliminated instead of someone else that other person might have bombed the commercial and go see and saved Heather and Lisas elimination

This entire arguement is about two different things Realitylovesme is thinking "What if this happened" and Dax is thinking "What did happen". In terms of what did happen I believe that Heather and Lisas elimination was fair under those circumstances, sure if someone else were there instead of Saleisha and Bianca and the entire competition wasnt run by bias then maybe Heather and Lisa would still be in.