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Old 11-30-2007, 06:34 PM   #851
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How is Eva, the most successful top model winner not modelesque?

And how is Top Model going downhill? By having the best ratings every single cycle? Or is it because the girls that you guys like left?

This is by far one of the best groups Top Model had. In every season there are unfair cuts but that doesn't mean the cycle is horrible.
eva is surprisingly successful, but not half as successful as Nicole or yoanna, or even danielle.
at least as far as modeling goes.
eva has been in some movies.

but it still surprises me that eva has gotten half the work she has.


i think what they meant by "top model going downhill", is probably just that since antm started working with elite models, the winners have sucked.

so yes, haha. i blame elite.
they should go back to IMG, and maybe then tyra will take the competition seriously enough to give the title to a deserving girl.

if saleisha wins, i think it would show a lack of respect for elite models, covergirl, and 17 on tyra's behalf.

but you're right, that this season has had some of the strongest girls yet.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:48 PM   #852
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if saleisha wins, i think it would show a lack of respect for elite models, covergirl, and 17 on tyra's behalf.

but you're right, that this season has had some of the strongest girls yet.
I'd like to know how Cover Girl feels about the girls who win - Danielle is the only one whose contract was renewed. Jaslene's commercials are ghastly - as stiff and forced as anything she did on ANTM. And not one of the winners seems to have become a genuine "Top Model".
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:30 PM   #853
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How is Eva, the most successful top model winner not modelesque?

And how is Top Model going downhill? By having the best ratings every single cycle? Or is it because the girls that you guys like left?

This is by far one of the best groups Top Model had. In every season there are unfair cuts but that doesn't mean the cycle is horrible.
First of all, just because Eva has had little roles on various sitcoms, that all are cancelled/going to be cancelled, DOES NOT make er the most sucessful. Second, being modelesque and being sucessful are two TOTALLY different things. Being modelesque means that you are tall, thin, photogenic, and young. An example would be a girl who is 16, 5'11, and 118 pounds. Eva being 5'6 alone completely ruins her chances of being 'modelesque.' Oh, and Yaya's commercial sucess completely overshadows Eva's fame-whoring. As you can tell, I completely despise Eva with every fiber of my being.

Top model is going down hill, because, although the final 13 were the best in antm history, the wlimination order is ridiculous. Saleisha and Bianca making it farther than Lisa, Ebony, Heather, Sarah, and Victoria, and presumably Chantal and Jenah based on what wev'e seen, is not reflective of a model competition AT ALL. While every season has unfair cuts, this season's wre by far, the worst. Eliminating a model who had the best covergirl photo of the bunch, and one of the best portfolio's? Eliminating a modelesque girl just because she tried to make conversation with Twiggy? Eliminating a model who evidently was loved by everyone, for she won cover girl of the week every single week excluding the first week? Making fun of a modelesque girl to the point wherwe she actually QUIT the show?That's why it's going down-hill. We are not just whining for our health.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:49 PM   #854
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Top model is going down hill, because, although the final 13 were the best in antm history, the wlimination order is ridiculous. Saleisha and Bianca making it farther than Lisa, Ebony, Heather, Sarah, and Victoria, and presumably Chantal and Jenah based on what wev'e seen, is not reflective of a model competition AT ALL. While every season has unfair cuts, this season's wre by far, the worst. Eliminating a model who had the best covergirl photo of the bunch, and one of the best portfolio's? Eliminating a modelesque girl just because she tried to make conversation with Twiggy? Eliminating a model who evidently was loved by everyone, for she won cover girl of the week every single week excluding the first week? Making fun of a modelesque girl to the point wherwe she actually QUIT the show?That's why it's going down-hill. We are not just whining for our health.
I’m not going to deny that you do have a point but I think favoritism plays an important role in the fans not liking the season. This is not only about the portfolio, we all know how Lisa was modelesque but we know as a fact the two horrible weeks she had before being eliminated. Her elimination was fair because she lacked of confidence was struggling to the point that she started as the strongest one and fell down to be one of the weakest one in those two weeks.

In the night of Lisa’s elimination the commercial had to be judged and for that she was eliminated as well because of her lack of confidence and her previous weak week. The same goes for Heather. Probably one of the best models in terms of photoshoots in ANTM history but the fact that she actually had 3 weeks being at the weak spot was more than enough. She was suffering because she wanted it and keeping her in the competition doing bad was unfair for the other girls’ and it was unfair for her. Both of them couldn’t handle criticism and we all know the reality of the modeling industry, they tell you straight that they don’t like you and if you can’t handle that then you are not prepared to be a model. They both need time but I assure that we will see them again. Both are amazing and just by looking at them you know that their future is going to be brilliant.

On another note the show is made without taking in consideration Covergirl of the Week. That’s a given so Covergirl of the Week doesn’t count in judging. They couldn’t keep her because she was winning them all because at that time they didn’t know. But you are smart so you know that.^_^

I think this competition has been fair and my only complains are that Bianca is still in the competition and the eliminations of Janet and Victoria.

I think that from the beginning we are expecting too much of ANTM. Since the first episode they ever aired we knew this is a reality show. This not a 100% modeling competition and we need to be aware of that. Great models have left but the show balances a lot the drama and the modeling world. That explains a lot of things.
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I’m not going to deny that you do have a point but I think favoritism plays an important role in the fans not liking the season. This is not only about the portfolio, we all know how Lisa was modelesque but we know as a fact the two horrible weeks she had before being eliminated. Her elimination was fair because she lacked of confidence was struggling to the point that she started as the strongest one and fell down to be one of the weakest one in those two weeks.

In the night of Lisa’s elimination the commercial had to be judged and for that she was eliminated as well because of her lack of confidence and her previous weak week. The same goes for Heather. Probably one of the best models in terms of photoshoots in ANTM history but the fact that she actually had 3 weeks being at the weak spot was more than enough. She was suffering because she wanted it and keeping her in the competition doing bad was unfair for the other girls’ and it was unfair for her. Both of them couldn’t handle criticism and we all know the reality of the modeling industry, they tell you straight that they don’t like you and if you can’t handle that then you are not prepared to be a model. They both need time but I assure that we will see them again. Both are amazing and just by looking at them you know that their future is going to be brilliant.

On another note the show is made without taking in consideration Covergirl of the Week. That’s a given so Covergirl of the Week doesn’t count in judging. They couldn’t keep her because she was winning them all because at that time they didn’t know. But you are smart so you know that.^_^

I think this competition has been fair and my only complains are that Bianca is still in the competition and the eliminations of Janet and Victoria.

I think that from the beginning we are expecting too much of ANTM. Since the first episode they ever aired we knew this is a reality show. This not a 100% modeling competition and we need to be aware of that. Great models have left but the show balances a lot the drama and the modeling world. That explains a lot of things.
You have got alot of stuff here, so I'm going to pick this post apart...

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I’m not going to deny that you do have a point but I think favoritism plays an important role in the fans not liking the season. This is not only about the portfolio, we all know how Lisa was modelesque but we know as a fact the two horrible weeks she had before being eliminated. Her elimination was fair because she lacked of confidence was struggling to the point that she started as the strongest one and fell down to be one of the weakest one in those two weeks.
But does that make it more justifiable to eliminate her over Saleisha and Bianca? No matter how terrible Lisa may have started doing in the last two weeks, she could have done poorly enough to deserve getting eliminated before two girls who are completely undeserving of even making the final 10. An the only thing Lisa really screwed up at was the commercial. So did Heather and Bianca.

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In the night of Lisa’s elimination the commercial had to be judged and for that she was eliminated as well because of her lack of confidence and her previous weak week. The same goes for Heather. Probably one of the best models in terms of photoshoots in ANTM history but the fact that she actually had 3 weeks being at the weak spot was more than enough. She was suffering because she wanted it and keeping her in the competition doing bad was unfair for the other girls’ and it was unfair for her. Both of them couldn’t handle criticism and we all know the reality of the modeling industry, they tell you straight that they don’t like you and if you can’t handle that then you are not prepared to be a model. They both need time but I assure that we will see them again. Both are amazing and just by looking at them you know that their future is going to be brilliant.
Saleisha. That is proof enough that you have some sort of double standard going on. If youre going to whine abbout Lisa, who has had 3 weak weeks in the commpetition, then why not Saleisha, who has had about 3 GOOD weeks in the competition. According to your standards, it would be completely justifiable to eliminate a model after one bad shoot, and overall bodies of work wouldn't be taken into account. Now that is ridiculous.
And if you want to know what is unfair, Saleisha making it this far for the sole reason that she went to T-Zone is unfair.

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On another note the show is made without taking in consideration Covergirl of the Week. That’s a given so Covergirl of the Week doesn’t count in judging. They couldn’t keep her because she was winning them all because at that time they didn’t know. But you are smart so you know that.^_^
I wasn't saying that the judges wre supposed to keep her around because she won CGOTW every week. What I was saying is that if she won it almost every week, there obviously is something she has that is impressing the general public, and if all of us could see it, shouldn't the judges have...
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I think that from the beginning we are expecting too much of ANTM. Since the first episode they ever aired we knew this is a reality show. This not a 100% modeling competition and we need to be aware of that. Great models have left but the show balances a lot the drama and the modeling world. That explains a lot of things.
But seasons 1, and to some extent 2 actually WERE about modelling. At least more than seasons 3-9...

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Personally, I think they should dump covergirl and seventeen. They don't even use the winners in the ads and they always use celebrities.
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Personally, I think they should dump covergirl and seventeen. They don't even use the winners in the ads and they always use celebrities.
i agree!
and dump elite too!
ever since they switched to elite, we've had caridee, jaslene for the winners...

what?!
i think the cycle 2 prizes were great...
IMG contract
Revlon Campaign
and a Jane Magazine spread.


ahh those were the days..

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Old 12-01-2007, 01:16 AM   #858
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Revlon was for Cycle 1, Sephora was for Cycle 2. IMG got was stuck with the overrated Yoanna .As for Elite, their track record is so-so when compared to Ford. Looking back and going through most of the Top Models forums wanted Caridee to win when it came down to the F3 and it was about 50 percent for Jaslene to win. If Saleisha wins, she will be a good CG spokesperson and a potentially good model.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:38 AM   #859
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^LOL, well it's your lucky year then. BTW, she looks cute in your avatar. Not high fashion or anything, but it's better than the hair she has now.

Speaking of that hair, I saw a girl with a similar hair on the subway today. LOL, she was kinda ugly though.
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She's like a bland version of Rhianna.
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