I feel the two of them have matured (especially Rachel) since they fell madly in love during BB. I wasn't their biggest fan at the time. But I see them now and have to hope all their dreams come true. They might be annoying to many, but neither are bad or mean spirited people. I wish I had a faithful and loving husband when we were a young married couple. Carefully planning and waiting until they are ready in every way to start a family sounds admirable to me.