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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Mare View Post
    Except St Dave seems to bring it up every- single- week, I wish he would build a bridge and get over it. Oh and take the others with him I loved that the Cowboys said they were not getting involved with Brenchal and Dave classy
    I loved that he rode the horse away, how fitting
    I agree that Dave's gone on about the U-Turn too much and for too long. My point was that we don't know whether or not the cowboys might do the same (or at least a little bit of the same), because they won't be on next week to complain (or not). They get to look classier by default. (And it's possible they would be, but we don't have any way of knowing.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by norealityhere View Post
    Don't like the Afghanimals at all.
    Like them even less for u-turning the Cowboys.
    Oh my gravy. I'm going to miss the Cowboys.
    Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y? Didn't the Granimals join the 'Accidental Alliance' because of their indignation over Brenchel u-turning Saint Dave?

    So sad to see the Cowboys eliminated. Particularly difficult to stomach with the Singers in the F4.
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    With the edit on Caroline/Jen as the "weak team" and "having all the luck in the world", I am half-suspecting they will turn out to be the Josh and Brent of the season. The team that no one considers a threat end up winning the whole race.

    The last all-stars season was also won by Kisha and Jen, an all-female team who did not win a single leg prior to the final leg. Will history repeat itself?

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    I'm among those who will really miss the cowboys. They went out with a high level of class . . . no less than I expected.

    While Dave and Rachel aren't my favorite contestants, I can't blame them for trying everything they could to get those "bulls" to ease up. That task was TOO brutal, because they were the targets of physical attacks on hard, cobblestone (unsteady footing) streets. I don't have a problem with the idea that the teams have to beat each other in physical challenges, but when someone ends up potentially knocking their knee out of joint, it's over the line. It wasn't even fun to watch, IMO.

    At this point, I don't care who does win . . . as long as it's an all-male team.
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    Is it wrong that I loved that bull challenge & loved seeing Rachel knocked on her ass ??

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    That Bull challenge looked dangerous! As you can see what happened to Jamal, people had every right to ask to be careful around them, and I do not blame either Dave or Rachel one bit for their words during that contest. Heck, I'd be scared myself.

    What I totally cannot understand is people calling the Afghanimals hypocrite. The Afghanimals arrived at the U-Turn, knowing that whoever they U-Turned had a good chance to be eliminated. They respected the Cowboys as dangerous opponents, considered them the most dangerous at that time (especially with them suspecting they might have a disadvantage at physical tasks due to Jamal's potential injury), and decided to U-Turn them in the hopes of eliminating another strong team.

    The U-Turn is part of the game. It's not something the Afghanimals have added to the game. Heck, if you asked them, they would probably wish the U-Turn wasn't part of the game, as they've been on the receiving end more often than not. You can't blame the Afghanimals for using an element of the race.

    If anyone were to be called hypocrites, the Cowboys would be better fits. "Can't trust those people. Brings out the worst in them." The Cowboys themselves clearly tried not to associate them with the alliance. They had no outstanding honor agreements with the Afghanimals. Though, I can totally see them blurting that out due to how disappointed they were, and I don't blame them for it at all. You're tired, everything that day has been going wrong, you're totally in last spot, and then you're U-Turned on top of that. That just sucks, and they were just venting a bit.

    Would the show be better off without the U-Turn? Possibly. It might be more fair, but then again, the production crew doesn't have to go for fair. Drama can be an interesting thing to watch. It sells at least. And the U-Turn adds drama and points of discussion. However, the Cowbows were last to arrive at the U-Turn, and it was straight to the finish line from there. Had there been no U-Turn, chances were good they would've been eliminated nonetheless. On the flip side of the coin, had they not arrived last to the U-Turn board, but in front of the Country Singers, you can bet they would've U-Turned them, and probably have beaten their ass off. So the Cowboys didn't lose just because of the U-Turn, or because of the U-Turn at all, but because of the various mistakes they have made throughout this leg. It sucks to see them go home, because they're an enthusiastic and interesting team to watch, but no foul play was involved here.
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    Re: 5/4 TAR 24 : Episode 10 **West Coast Spoilers**

    The hypocrisy comes when you condemn one team (Brenchel) for using the U-turn to further their game, then, at the next opportunity, use the U-turn to further your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Griss View Post
    Actually, the cowboys said a bit more than that. They basically said that the Afghanimals weren't playing with integrity, and they were disappointed in them for doing it (and a couple more things that suggested they were morally superior). It wasn't too much different than "Saint Dave's" initial reaction. The difference is that we won't be hearing them continue to go on and on about it, so they won't be put in the same category as Dave.

    I don't begrudge them feeling disappointed about getting U-Turned and leaving the race as a result. I don't even begrudge them "getting up on their high horse" about it and implying that they wouldn't have done it. I just think it's interesting how we interpret things in different ways depending on how much we like the people saying them. (I'm not a Dave fan, by the way. Not against him but not particularly for him either.)
    I actually didn't see Dave's reaction much different. People are entitled to feel hurt disappointed and the like being U-Turned. I think Dave's case it was there really WASN'T a good reason for it except Brenchel wanted to win that leg of the race. Maybe it was an ego thing - that they weren't U-Turned as being a "threat" but instead to win a leg of the race. As the Cowboys and Globetrotters said themselves, the only leg that is important to win is the last one.

    The Cowboys I think were upset and acted a bit "superior" because they wanted to play the game with integrity. They felt as the other teams that Leo and Jamal would U-Turn Brendan and Rachel because they've already won a competition before (Well Rachel), and have had lots of PR since from the show (including their wedding paid for and shown on David Tutera's show). But instead, they went after the strongest team, and it just hurt them that they'd prefer a weaker team that's already won over a stronger team they COULD lose to but maybe not WOULD.

    You are right, it's perception, but I personally don't think either group's reactions were out of line. Now, if they acted like Brenchel was about being under a threat of a U-Turn... or if the Brenchels HAD been U-turned, I think we'd gotten a TRUE poor sportsmanship reaction because we've seen it in "Big Brother."

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    I can't get over how EASY the blonde's extra task was!!! They were required to carry a few hams for several blocks and drop them off. Really!?!?

    I realize that, most often, the extra task (can't remember the exact name) isn't off the charts difficult but this was ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thels View Post
    Would the show be better off without the U-Turn? Possibly. It might be more fair, but then again, the production crew doesn't have to go for fair. Drama can be an interesting thing to watch. It sells at least. And the U-Turn adds drama and points of discussion. However, the Cowbows were last to arrive at the U-Turn, and it was straight to the finish line from there. Had there been no U-Turn, chances were good they would've been eliminated nonetheless. On the flip side of the coin, had they not arrived last to the U-Turn board, but in front of the Country Singers, you can bet they would've U-Turned them, and probably have beaten their ass off. So the Cowboys didn't lose just because of the U-Turn, or because of the U-Turn at all, but because of the various mistakes they have made throughout this leg. It sucks to see them go home, because they're an enthusiastic and interesting team to watch, but no foul play was involved here.
    You are right on so many points in this paragraph. I don't see the cowboys as hypocrites at all, and understand why L&J U-Turned them (even though I think they should've U-Turned Brendan and Rachel instead because they've won something already and I'd hate to see them win this race.)

    I think that the U-Turn was the weaker deterrent of all of them. I liked the Yield better because the folks had to wait an hour before continuing on the task, so you had to see if others came and passed you.

    I'd rather see them bring IT back and make the speed bumps a proper challenge. The BEST speed bump I saw - even though it cost them the race in the end - were Bopper and Mark their first season (I think unless they've been in another All-Stars). They had a speed bump where they had to do body paint on these dancers. It took a time because they had to paint it to make it look good and match the main dancer. They even went and did the fast forward and tried to advance but it still was a bit late. Another one - though we didn't see all of it because that team was SO far behind they were last regardless, was a pair who had to wash paint off a painted elephant.
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