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    What didn't make the grade.

    Again, because they had to choose a theme, much of the filming in the Castro didn't make it. Ryan and Ed and I went to many more bars, restaurants, etc. He didn't actually spend that much time with Penny in the Church - they just made it look that way. Ryan and I had many discussions about how he wanted to make sure people changed their impressions of him, as well. I'll admit that all of us at the dinner table that first night had our OWN pre-conceived notions of him. I truly changed as well over the 30 days. Just basically came to believe that I could agree to disagree with him on his religious stance, but that I could actually become good friends with someone from a farm in Michigan. As a matter of fact, I spoke with Ryan yesterday as he was on his way back from Reserve training. I am frightened that he might have to go to Iraq, and I feel I would lose a good friend if he doesn't come back. Anyway, we had fun in the bars, driving around the city, chatting at Ed's house until 2 in the morning (that was furniture from MY spare room, by the way, in Ed's closet...we spent a lot of time trying to make it comfy). All in all, it was a great experience, and you all got to see the real Ed and the real Ryan. Oh, one last thing. Poor Jake really suffered the editing scissors. He was there for a few days, and they got tons of footage of him, but just showed the funny moment (after many beers) of them dancing. Jake was a nice guy, actually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikeleven11
    Oh, one last thing. Poor Jake really suffered the editing scissors. He was there for a few days, and they got tons of footage of him, but just showed the funny moment (after many beers) of them dancing. Jake was a nice guy, actually...

    Thanks for the *extra footage*. I personally thought that the show was great and I liked everyone on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roseskid
    For the record, I believe the world would be a much more humane place if people were a little more open-minded, and a lot more tolerant of others.

    Paula, Ryan’s mother, tells us she hopes this experience doesn’t change her son. It’s unclear whether she’s worried he might ‘turn gay,’ or if she’s hoping he remains close-minded, but I’m putting my money on the latter.


    The epiphany a moment like that must have on someone strikes me powerfully. At times like this, I realize I have taken much for granted in my heterosexual life.


    The lesson is not a total loss, though, because Ryan describes David as “fruity.” I was hoping he’d also add full-bodied, stimulating, piquant, vibrant, juicy, and delightfully fragrant, but no.


    I enjoy watching a few of Ryan’s stereotypes shatter, but I must confess, some of my enjoyment might also be in picturing Mom getting a little uneasy back on the farm.


    and often demonstrates on the streets against homosexuals with his 13 children, and 53 grandchildren. (Apparently demonstrating isn’t the only thing he does in his spare time.)

    and his mother states, “he doesn’t ask me about my sex life, and I don’t ask him about his.” Ah, the sweet acceptance of a mother’s love.

    Dad wants to know what “those men” do for “real jobs.” Ryan has come a long way and answers, “everything everybody else does in the city.”
    Excellent recap, roses.
    The show isn't even on in Canada so I haven't seen it, but even your sensitive hadnling of the recap made me tear up.
    I hope it will be shown up here. I can't wait to "meet" Sam.

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    I was very moved by this particular show. I had tears in my eyes a few times, watching these wonderful men showing Ryan that Gay people are not evil, but loving, caring people, living and working just like everyone else. I hope that others feel the same way I do, after watching this show. I am a single gay man living in a very straight town.

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    Hey there, Rick. This is Ed the gay roommate. Thanks for the kinds words. Hang in there. I suggest taking many vacations (or even long weekends). Austin, Houston and Dallas each have pretty great gay scenes. Funny, I had one of the best weekends in my life in Houston, probably because a go-go boy at JR's seemed to really like me and we had a wonderful time together (at the bar, only). The staff at the Ritz-Charlton made the stay even more special giving us free use of the hotel car and a driver, and they suggested where to go (knowing we were gay). This surprised me as I thought that straight Texans would never be so helpful. Sometimes we underestimate people and create prisons where no real walls exist. Anyway, I'm getting philosophical here. Again, thanks for watching and if you ever want to live in SF, we would love to have you.
    Ed

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    Ed,

    Thanks for the advise. I know Austin is a very gay friendly town, but I'm more of a home body, except when I go to Louisiana to hit the casinos! I only live 60 miles from Austin.
    I would love to visit San Fransisco to check it out. Maybe I'll have to plan that for one of my vacation trips.

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    Great recap! I just watched this episode again and I think you really captured it!

    "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    Benjamin Franklin.

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    If anyone else missed this episode, TV Guide has it listed on Monday July 25th at 9:00pm (this is in the midwest, you might need to check local listings for the correct time).

    I can't wait

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    Closet, it was by far the best one of the year...glad you get to see it! Thanks for the heads up, as I want to see it again.

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    I finally caught this show last night
    You were all right. I think this was by far the best episode of the season!!
    Ed in SF - you seem like a really great guy! I want to be your friend too after watching this show

    Quote Originally Posted by roseskid
    After World War II, thousands of gay servicemen were released in the area, and since then, gay men and women have made it home.
    I just about spit out my drink when they said this. "Released in the area" makes it sound like they were rehabilitated wildlife being set free...

    Quote Originally Posted by roseskid
    The complete opposite of tolerance is Pastor Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kansas. He is also a civil rights attorney, and often demonstrates on the streets against homosexuals with his 13 children, and 53 grandchildren.
    This made me sick to my stomach. Especially the fact that they had young children out there being taught to hate. It makes me very thankful that I was brought up with tolerant, open-minded parents!

    Quote Originally Posted by roseskid
    It’s obvious Ed is very much loved, however, and he’s fortunate to be surrounded by family members who are proud of who is he as a person, and who aren’t diminished in any way by his sexuality.
    I just loved the part with Ed's famliy. Everone deserves to have a family this supportive!!

    Quote Originally Posted by roseskid
    Ryan spends the day with some gay WWII veterans, and although he tells them he respects them, he says he would be uncomfortable showering next to a gay military man. The visit doesn’t appear to have changed his opinion much, but later Ryan tells Ed, because they’ve become friends, it wouldn’t bother him to serve alongside him. ...I like seeing Ryan question some of his tenets.
    This was one of my favorite parts of the show. Ryan seemed so set in his ways until he thought about serving in the military with Ed. You could just see the gears turning in his brain as he tried to reconcile his old beliefs with his new perspectives!!

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    ...he meets a wonderfully warm man, Sam, who has the worn, yet friendly face of a man who has experienced much in life. He is the father of a gay woman, and he tells the story of his daughter revealing her homosexuality to him during her freshman year in college.
    Sam was great!!! So endearing and hearfelt - what a great dad!

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